Boy Scouts Headed for Chapter 11?

[amboy49]

The Boy Scouts Filing Bankruptcy After A String Of “Woke” Decisions Caused It To Go Broke

Since when did the verb “awaken” get changed to “woke ?” Social engineering by changing the definition of words (?) Ain’t we living in a wonderful time !

 

[churchmouse]

Girl scouts dont even have half the funding the boy scouts do and they don't have any problems. It's all from taking away a young man's masculinity. Boys have a penis girls have a vagina. Boys join the boy scouts girls join the girl scouts.

I know this. That was my point. The wacko's and freaks are pushing back hard. Attacking anything male gender based.

 

[churchmouse]

What does that have to do with this?

A lot actually.

 

[lonehoosier]

A lot actually.

Please elaborate.

I work alongside those people that you have a problem with in Boy Scouts. Educate me.

 

[churchmouse]

Please elaborate.

I work alongside those people that you have a problem with in Boy Scouts. Educate me.

Did I say I had a problem. No you elaborate please. I stated reasons the scouts are being put in a corner. Never ever said I had a problem.
Holy mother. I have friends and associates across the entire spectrum. But they do not push. They live. And they let live. Have you not paid any attention to the developments over the last several years. I have. And I have had discussions with the people I know who are part of those cultures/life styles. Many are not pleased with the roads being traveled.

Is that enough for you.....

There is a large office building here located on north Meridian street that is the headquarters for the Boy Scouts. I have worked in that building on the HVAC equipment in the past. Been a while but even then money was tight for them. It showed in the building. In the staff. So in that I see them getting beat up with all the legal fights hey have endured. Plus the falling involvement of young men. JMHO of course but this is just something I have seen.

What I have an issue with is the war on the male gender.

 

[jkaetz]

What does that have to do with this?

I know this. That was my point. The wacko's and freaks are pushing back hard. Attacking anything male gender based.

Please elaborate.

I work alongside those people that you have a problem with in Boy Scouts. Educate me.

I believe the emphasized part of his post should clarify. Being non-binary in your gender isn't the defining set, aggressively pushing your agenda onto others is where you start to enter CM's subset referenced above. Men in general are under attack in this age, white men more than any other gender/race. More an more laws are created to elevate and protect other genders and races to "level the playing field" all while being used as a sledge hammer to push agendas that shouldn't involve a gender or race. The ones abusing the laws are the ones I would put into CM's subset.

 

[churchmouse]

I believe the emphasized part of his post should clarify. Being non-binary in your gender isn't the defining set, aggressively pushing your agenda onto others is where you start to enter CM's subset referenced above. Men in general are under attack in this age, white men more than any other gender/race. More an more laws are created to elevate and protect other genders and races to "level the playing field" all while being used as a sledge hammer to push agendas that shouldn't involve a gender or race. The ones abusing the laws are the ones I would put into CM's subset.

Thank you.
I can see how some would mis-read my intent. As with any group some will use and abuse. This is my problem. Not the life style choices short of being a pedophile. The extremes. That is my issue. I will not defend it any further.

 

[Trigger Time]

Please elaborate.

I work alongside those people that you have a problem with in Boy Scouts. Educate me.

BOY scouts. Not gay scouts, not transgender scouts, not girl and boy scouts, not, get raped scouts.
BOY scouts.
One of the most sacred, American, patriotic, masculine groups in the history of this country and the people running it now have ruined it.
I was looking forward to my son joining such an American tradition and institution. Not anymore. I wont give them a dime until they retur to what they were.
I dont have a problem if you like butt holes or vagina. I think you have every right to do what you want in your own bedroom. However I dont want my kids learning about sex of any kind from the damn boy scouts or whatever they call themselves now.
Kids dont need to be asking what gay or transsexual means.
I dont need to see parades with dildo's and men in banana hammocks rubbing oil on each other marching down my street. I dont want to see naked women marching down my street either. Save it for the adult areas or the bedroom.
America is also traditionally man and women. While I support your rights, i also dont want to see 2 dudes or even women making out on tv.
The boyscouts are going under because they are forcing an agenda on people. The MAJORITY of Americans do not support their agenda and I predicted they would go under. Not surprised at all it's happening so fast.
Also you are either a man or a woman. If you have a dick you are a man for societies purposes. If I see A MAN in the bathroom with my daughter I'm kicking your ass. I'll gladly go to jail or whatever, I'm kicking your ass.
If you want to start a social agenda based group go start the fag scouts or the all inclussive scouts or the snowflake scouts.

 

[Old Dog]

the people running it now have ruined it.

No, the haters of all things masculine have ruined it by cramming their ideas of change upon us. The leaders of the scouts only allowed it to happen without a sufficient fight. This is happening all over America today with all the social posturing, bullying, hating. It is all social engineering in action, to destroy America as we have known it. I am not sure just who is behind it all (wealthy socialists, brainless do gooders, Russia, China). They are changing America as we know it, bit by bit, from the inside without firing a shot. So much has changed already and many people do not even see it. We are loosing by not putting up a fight.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

The Boy Scouts Filing Bankruptcy After A String Of “Woke” Decisions Caused It To Go Broke

Boys are increasingly encouraged to be safer and more accepting of things that run against their nature. This is more dangerous than our society as a whole can realize yet, as boys need to be able to be boys. However, in this day and age, the very nature of boys is often the subject of ridicule and even labeled as a societal evil.

A lot of truth to this. This could be seen as tying in to Houghmade's thread on radicals/atheism/SJWs.

 

[Trigger Time]

No, the haters of all things masculine have ruined it by cramming their ideas of change upon us. The leaders of the scouts only allowed it to happen without a sufficient fight. This is happening all over America today with all the social posturing, bullying, hating. It is all social engineering in action, to destroy America as we have known it. I am not sure just who is behind it all (wealthy socialists, brainless do gooders, Russia, China). They are changing America as we know it, bit by bit, from the inside without firing a shot. So much has changed already and many people do not even see it. We are loosing by not putting up a fight.

I agree with you too. I cant believe what I'm seeing in our country. These commies better find patriotism or get the hell out of this country, or shut up and practice in private, because it's coming to a head. The Parriots of this country will not allow it to dissolve

 

[lonehoosier]

No matter what the changes are I will work alongside any individual that has the same goals to continue the scouting program. Those decisions up top are out of my control. This is still one of the best youth organizations out there. If my daughter can get out of scouting what me and my son has gotten out of it this world will be a better place for it. I’m sorry gentlemen that this world is changing but you can either get on with it or go continue living in the pass.

 

[Bucky623]

I believe the BSA is being diminished one lawsuit at a time. It began several years ago with the decision to allow homosexuals in scouting as a result of a lawsuit they felt they couldn't win. In the years since, multiple lawsuits or threats of lawsuits have further diminished the scouts. Registration fees have increased in recent years and are currently at $33 per person plus $3 insurance. BSA is self-insured. It is said, from the national office, that 100% of the registration fees go to pay lawsuits. At this rate fees will become too high for people to afford or a few substantial lawsuits will be enough to crippled and or kill the BSA as an organization.

The most recent lawsuit that gained National coverage was by the Girl Scouts. BSA scout leaders are no longer permitted to say the word girl in front of the word scout in a sentence. Now it must be Scouts BSA, girl troop or Scouts BSA, boy troop.

From my perspective the results of the lawsuits have had little to no effect on the values and morals in the local units. I don't see a diminished set of core values, as many people seem to believe there is. The core values have always been the same but more importantly, they are administered by the local unit adult leaders. That is where the value in scouting lies. Recruit leaders at the unit level with good morals and ethics and the kids in the unit will reflect that. I can only imagine that scouting units look differently and places like San Francisco and Seattle but again this is from my perspective.

 

[churchmouse]

No matter what the changes are I will work alongside any individual that has the same goals to continue the scouting program. Those decisions up top are out of my control. This is still one of the best youth organizations out there. If my daughter can get out of scouting what me and my son has gotten out of it this world will be a better place for it. I’m sorry gentlemen that this world is changing but you can either get on with it or go continue living in the pass.

And you still missed it. Not a slam or a knock. This is all out of the common mans control. Yes the world is changing and no I do not have to get on board with anything I see as harmful.

If gay man wants to lead a scout group what am I to say. If he is clean of record and cares then what am I to say. If you are involved and doing good work then Bravo. Good to you and those involved regardless. Stay the course. Make a difference.

It is the push that gets me. The targeting. The use of the judicial system to push change on people such as myself and others that do not want it. Do we not have that right. I believe we do.

Again, to you and all involved. Just do not judge me for my views. Until you fully understand them. Please.

 

[churchmouse]

I believe the BSA is being diminished one lawsuit at a time. It began several years ago with the decision to allow homosexuals in scouting as a result of a lawsuit they felt they couldn't win. In the years since, multiple lawsuits or threats of lawsuits have further diminished the scouts. Registration fees have increased in recent years and are currently at $33 per person plus $3 insurance. BSA is self-insured. It is said, from the national office, that 100% of the registration fees go to pay lawsuits. At this rate fees will become too high for people to afford or a few substantial lawsuits will be enough to crippled and or kill the BSA as an organization.

The most recent lawsuit that gained National coverage was by the Girl Scouts. BSA scout leaders are no longer permitted to say the word girl in front of the word scout in a sentence. Now it must be Scouts BSA, girl troop or Scouts BSA, boy troop.

From my perspective the results of the lawsuits have had little to no effect on the values and morals in the local units. I don't see a diminished set of core values, as many people seem to believe there is. The core values have always been the same but more importantly, they are administered by the local unit adult leaders. That is where the value in scouting lies. Recruit leaders at the unit level with good morals and ethics and the kids in the unit will reflect that. I can only imagine that scouting units look differently and places like San Francisco and Seattle but again this is from my perspective.

Exactly. Again, the push from the groups in question.

 

[lonehoosier]

And you still missed it. Not a slam or a knock. This is all out of the common mans control. Yes the world is changing and no I do not have to get on board with anything I see as harmful.

If gay man wants to lead a scout group what am I to say. If he is clean of record and cares then what am I to say. If you are involved and doing good work then Bravo. Good to you and those involved regardless. Stay the course. Make a difference.

It is the push that gets me. The targeting. The use of the judicial system to push change on people such as myself and others that do not want it. Do we not have that right. I believe we do.

Again, to you and all involved. Just do not judge me for my views. Until you fully understand them. Please.

No, I totally get it. Because you don’t agree with the direction of the upper brass you don’t want to part of that and that’s fine but by the way the only people that you are hurting are all those young youth that the majority of them come from broken homes or do have a father that are about useless.

 

[Trigger Time]

No matter what the changes are I will work alongside any individual that has the same goals to continue the scouting program. Those decisions up top are out of my control. This is still one of the best youth organizations out there. If my daughter can get out of scouting what me and my son has gotten out of it this world will be a better place for it. I’m sorry gentlemen that this world is changing but you can either get on with it or go continue living in the pass.

That's cool. I wish YOU all the best in all sincerity. But as for me and the majority of others who would be interested in scouts (I feel), we will take our kids and our money and play somewhere else. The boy scouts will continue to decline and eventualy fail, and then the social justice warriors will come and seek out whatever new group the rest of us have built or supported and start chipping away at it until its destroyed like they did the boy scouts. It's the way of the left. Their ideas are cancer. They eat their own eventualy too.
It's coming to a head and it's about to pop. The backbone of America that built America and keeps it going are tired of being stepped on and bitten by the dog it feeds.

 

[lonehoosier]

That's cool. I wish YOU all the best in all sincerity. But as for me and the majority of others who would be interested in scouts (I feel), we will take our kids and our money and play somewhere else. The boy scouts will continue to decline and eventualy fail, and then the social justice warriors will come and seek out whatever new group the rest of us have built or supported and start chipping away at it until its destroyed like they did the boy scouts. It's the way of the left. Their ideas are cancer. They eat their own eventualy too.
It's coming to a head and it's about to pop. The backbone of America that built America and keeps it going are tired of being stepped on and bitten by the dog it feeds.

Fair enough, I know you are great man. I just wished I had more great men in this organization. There are a lot of youth suffering because of it.

 

[churchmouse]

No, I totally get it. Because you don’t agree with the direction of the upper brass you don’t want to part of that and that’s fine but by the way the only people that you are hurting are all those young youth that the majority of them come from broken homes or do have a father that are about useless.

But in all of this it is those very people causing this harm not me. I have no power here. None. I only have an opinion as to the reasons this is all falling apart. How is it that I am causing harm. This is the crazy in all of this. When we step up and point to the problem you and others make us out to be the problem. I miss the original. That organization that stood for things I understood and agreed with. Not this diluted broken empty vessel that is about to fail. What good is that to anyone if it fails.

Once again, good on all who are staying involved.

 

[hoosierdoc]

What does that have to do with this?

Maybe I missed the problem at hand. Are these straight men sexually assaulting boys?

In the catholic church, is it straight men assaulting boys?

out of curiosity, why do you work with so many gay scout masters?