Breaking: Per SCOTUS, Same-Sex Marriage is now law of the land.

[sbu sailor]

I especially want the federal government to stay out of it.

^^^ What he said! ^^^

 

[Woobie]

Churches should get out of the marriage business. Let Justices of the Peace conduct them.

Why? Marriage existed as a solemn set of vows made before God before there even was such a thing as organized government. And certainly people were getting married before government got involved.

 

[steveh_131]

Churches should get out of the marriage business. Let Justices of the Peace conduct them.

This may be the new trend, I've heard some talk of this. Ceremonies only.

 

[MisterChester]

Justice Kennedy in his opinion said that churches CAN deny same sex couples, it's the states that must not deny the right. So they can go to a courthouse for a marriage license but a church will not be forced to perform them.

 

[Woobie]

Can a Baptist sue a Catholic Church for not holding/performing a ceremony? Nope. Cases may be filed my good man, but they won't see the inside of a court.

They don't have to go to trial. A wealthy group can come along and sue a church, dragging out litigation until the church folds, either morally or as a legal entity.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

President to speak on this at 11am.

 

[foszoe]

President to speak on this at 11am.

Are you in the news business?

 

[HoughMade]

Kinda anti-climactic.

 

[seedubs1]

Good. If the .gov is going to give benefits to OSM, SSM should receive the same benefits. It was an atrocity to not afford those benefits in the past.

 

[sbu sailor]

You underestimate the power of the screaming masses. Media will latch onto those cases and make them an issue.

We will see. That's just where I see it going.

You have a valid point about screwing masses! Let me rephrase... The cases SHOULD NOT see the inside of a court.

This whole thing could've been avoided by creating "civil unions" for the LGBT community, that allowed them the same rights as married couples. Redefining marriage as "not" only between a man and woman just sucks. I firmly believe that gays who commit to each other as lifelong couples deserve to file joint taxes, have the same insurance abilities et al, I just don't believe it's a "marriage."

 

[MisterChester]

Kinda anti-climactic.

The real fun will start in the GOP primaries. I'm expecting the more statist ones to go full derp on this issue.

 

[mrjarrell]

I don't think so. The lawsuits will come.

No church should be forced to do anything they don't want to do. I'm willing to put a lot of money on a bet that people will try. We'll see.



I'm not confident that people will care. This will be the next big issue.

Same sex marriage has been legal in Indiana for over a year now. How many lawsuits have we seen? That's right....none. It's only an issue to the butthurt among certain sects. There are plenty of people who actually are willing to officiate at a same sex marriage that it's not a problem. I really don't see people lining up to get married by some southern baptist hater.

 

[HoughMade]

The attorneys who brought these cases are out celebrating. Divorce attorneys are pricing new boats and Bentleys.

 

[seedubs1]

Semantics. This was about equal rights. Who cares what you call it.

Feel free to make up a new word for marriage between a man and woman if it makes you feel better.

You have a valid point about screwing masses! Let me rephrase... The cases SHOULD NOT see the inside of a court.

This whole thing could've been avoided by creating "civil unions" for the LGBT community, that allowed them the same rights as married couples. Redefining marriage as "not" only between a man and woman just sucks. I firmly believe that gays who commit to each other as lifelong couples deserve to file joint taxes, have the same insurance abilities et al, I just don't believe it's a "marriage."

 

[MisterChester]

You have a valid point about screwing masses! Let me rephrase... The cases SHOULD NOT see the inside of a court.

This whole thing could've been avoided by creating "civil unions" for the LGBT community, that allowed them the same rights as married couples. Redefining marriage as "not" only between a man and woman just sucks. I firmly believe that gays who commit to each other as lifelong couples deserve to file joint taxes, have the same insurance abilities et al, I just don't believe it's a "marriage."

The court has held in the past that separate but equal is not equal at all.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Same sex marriage has been legal in Indiana for over a year now. How many lawsuits have we seen? That's right....none. It's only an issue to the butthurt among certain sects. There are plenty of people who actually are willing to officiate at a same sex marriage that it's not a problem. I really don't see people lining up to get married by some southern baptist hater.

It's like going to an anti-gay baker and suing them when they won't make your cake. There are those vindictive enough to seek out these places, knowing they'll be turned down, and create a case out of it. Some people aren't interested in just finding a more accepting venue.

It happens. It will happen. That's my opinion.

 

[sbu sailor]

They don't have to go to trial. A wealthy group can come along and sue a church, dragging out litigation until the church folds, either morally or as a legal entity.

A church doesn't even need a lawyer to fight this, and there will be plenty willing to tell the litigants off pro bono. No non profit church will fold over denying a same sex ceremony.

 

[HoughMade]

...I really don't see people lining up to get married by some southern baptist hater.

Nice.

I also think its cute that actually wanting to get married by him is the only reason a same sex couple would ask to be married by a Southern Baptist Pastor.

 

[Trigger Time]

Good.

 

[sbu sailor]

Semantics. This was about equal rights. Who cares what you call it.

Feel free to make up a new word for marriage between a man and woman if it makes you feel better.

My point is, they could've gotten it done much easier and quicker that way.