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  • Woobie

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    I can't for the life of me can't see how you don't think that's inferred.

    Because slavery implies all the benefit goes to one party, or in other words, the owner is taking advantage of the slave. Citizen soldiers derive as much benefit from their service as the next person who didn't serve.

    If we miss-apply the conditions as you did, then we could almost look at jury duty as slavery.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Because slavery implies all the benefit goes to one party, or in other words, the owner is taking advantage of the slave. Citizen soldiers derive as much benefit from their service as the next person who didn't serve.

    If we miss-apply the conditions as you did, then we could almost look at jury duty as slavery.

    And we're talking about the draft, which ended near the conclusion of the Vietnam War, and saying that those citizen soldiers derived "as much benefit" by serving as as people that didn't? C'mon Woobie. From the Irish, to minorities, to the poor, and to the uneducated, that doesn't reconcile with history.
     

    Woobie

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    And we're talking about the draft, which ended near the conclusion of the Vietnam War, and saying that those citizen soldiers derived "as much benefit" by serving as as people that didn't? C'mon Woobie. From the Irish, to minorities, to the poor, and to the uneducated, that doesn't reconcile with history.

    Certainly. Stop looking at everything with a victim's eyes. Not everyone sacrifices, to be sure. But the great benefit to every citizen is the freedom bought by that sacrifice, which benefit the soldier receives as well.

    But those Americans pressed into service with the RN received nothing in return for their forced sacrifice. They were property of the crown, fighting against their own interest.

    So the equivalence you drew to the draft is just false.
     
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