Colorado Ends Qualified Immunity for Police

[CPT Nervous]

If I were still on the job I would have already chased, raised my voice to or placed handcuffs on the last suspect I ever would. If someone isn't willing to handcuff themselves they wouldn't be going to jail.

The sad reality is that we're pretty much there.

 

[Dutchisaurus]

Seems a pretty big blatant loop hole.

Just be poor. I assume most officers are gun collectors. Create a gun trust and put all monies earned into the trust.

 

[KG1]

If I were still on the job I would have already chased, raised my voice to or placed handcuffs on the last suspect I ever would. If someone isn't willing to handcuff themselves they wouldn't be going to jail.

They can let the social workers handle it.

 

[KellyinAvon]

They can let the social workers handle it.

Social workers will be getting sued next.

 

[2A_Tom]

Become a limited liability corporation.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Become a limited liability corporation.

Could call it Omni Consumer Products, or Skynet.

 

[Hohn]

I wonder how many days it'll be before every cop in the state resigns.

Qualified immunity is pretty much a requirement to carry out policing in any capacity. It's one of the only reasons they can get away with things we can't in a citizen arrest.

we had law enforcement before courts fabricated qualified immunity, we’ll have it after it’s gone.

 

[jamil]

Social workers will be getting sued next.

Well, until John Roberts writes the majority opinion establishing qualified immunity for social workers.

 

[Denny347]

we had law enforcement before courts fabricated qualified immunity, we’ll have it after it’s gone.

Not with the same sue happy society we have now. If officers are not protecting themselves at this point, shame on them. Unless required by statute or General Order, no outright arrests, even of you witness it. If you do make an arrest and they so much as pull an arm away, let them go. ZERO pro-activity. Reduce your liability to get sued and/or arrested to as close to zero as possible. This is the police response the populace wants, who are we to say otherwise? There is not a single arrest out there worth what these politicians are doing to us. The thin blue line was NEVER about "us vs. them" but considering recent events, we might reconsider that.

 

[Cameramonkey]

Not with the same sue happy society we have now. If officers are not protecting themselves at this point, shame on them. Unless required by statute or General Order, no outright arrests, even of you witness it. If you do make an arrest and they so much as pull an arm away, let them go. ZERO pro-activity. Reduce your liability to get sued and/or arrested to as close to zero as possible. This is the police response the populace wants, who are we to say otherwise? There is not a single arrest out there worth what these politicians are doing to us. The thin blue line was NEVER about "us vs. them" but considering recent events, we might reconsider that.

This reminds me of the classic Robin Williams stand up about British Bobbies. "STOP!... Or I'll yell STOP again!"

And its probably not a big deal here in Indy. Regardless the punk's gonna be back on the street before you get off your shift.

 

[Tombs]

Not with the same sue happy society we have now. If officers are not protecting themselves at this point, shame on them. Unless required by statute or General Order, no outright arrests, even of you witness it. If you do make an arrest and they so much as pull an arm away, let them go. ZERO pro-activity. Reduce your liability to get sued and/or arrested to as close to zero as possible. This is the police response the populace wants, who are we to say otherwise? There is not a single arrest out there worth what these politicians are doing to us. The thin blue line was NEVER about "us vs. them" but considering recent events, we might reconsider that.

*A tiny far-leftist vocal minority.

The only major gripe I have with police is that the "us vs them" mentality is bleeding over to the point they are also targeting good citizens just trying to defend against the leftist hoards.

 

[Route 45]

*A tiny far-leftist vocal minority.

The only major gripe I have with police is that the "us vs them" mentality is bleeding over to the point they are also targeting good citizens just trying to defend against the leftist hoards.

Funny how this "tiny" minority has taken over the center of a major American city without pushback, is toppling statues or forcing removal all across the nation, loots and pillages at will without consequence, and has major corporations and elected officials mindlessly repeating their slogans and bowing to their demands. It's almost like it's not a tiny minority.

 

[hpclayto]

we had law enforcement before courts fabricated qualified immunity, we’ll have it after it’s gone.

No. You won’t. Not the kind that’s going to do anything other than sit and wait around for an active shooter anyway. Pro active policing is going to be a thing of the past and the police will purely be crime responders. Cops are tired of getting **** on. This isn’t 1967 anymore, two vastly different time periods.

 

[Tombs]

Funny how this "tiny" minority has taken over the center of a major American city without pushback, is toppling statues or forcing removal all across the nation, loots and pillages at will without consequence, and has major corporations and elected officials mindlessly repeating their slogans and bowing to their demands. It's almost like it's not a tiny minority.

Because it's all in democrat controlled areas, which nobody outside of sees any reason to do anything about.

 

[Route 45]

Because it's all in democrat controlled areas, which nobody outside of sees any reason to do anything about.

Which is about half of the nation. "Tiny minority" my ass.

 

[Tombs]

Which is about half of the nation. "Tiny minority" my ass.

If it's not actually a tiny minority, then we will be going to actual physical combat before long. The only way around that would be a major war with another global power.

 

[Libertarian01]

Here is an article from the CATO Institute talking about the twelve (12) qualified immunity cases SCOTUS has delayed, for now.

Link: https://www.cato.org/blog/may-15th-...hether-hear-cases-calling-abolition-qualified

Some of these cases are a bit iffy on things, but on the majority I do believe that it would not be improper at all for a jury to decide whether or not to hold the officer or his/her department responsible.

I personally would like to see it ended, or at least greatly reduced. Some of these cases I may(?) side with the LEO, but others seem to beg the question of how on earth they (LEO) got away with it. Especially Jessop v City of Fresno???

Regards,

Doug

 

[jamil]

Not with the same sue happy society we have now. If officers are not protecting themselves at this point, shame on them. Unless required by statute or General Order, no outright arrests, even of you witness it. If you do make an arrest and they so much as pull an arm away, let them go. ZERO pro-activity. Reduce your liability to get sued and/or arrested to as close to zero as possible. This is the police response the populace wants, who are we to say otherwise? There is not a single arrest out there worth what these politicians are doing to us. The thin blue line was NEVER about "us vs. them" but considering recent events, we might reconsider that.

Doesn’t the agency have a part in this per the new law? Do you not trust them to stand behind their officers?

 

[jamil]

Funny how this "tiny" minority has taken over the center of a major American city without pushback, is toppling statues or forcing removal all across the nation, loots and pillages at will without consequence, and has major corporations and elected officials mindlessly repeating their slogans and bowing to their demands. It's almost like it's not a tiny minority.

This is the most worrisome part about all this. People in powerful positions elieve the narrative being told, that America is chock full of racist institutions, including police departments, and that all this violence is a reaction to that. Lots of CEO’s are making corporate statements now that pretty much say as much. I hope they’re just saying it to protect their businesses. At least that would be the encouraging part. But I fear they’re serious. That they really believe all this is justified, and that the social changes coming are needed. Some of them are needed. I was glad to see Louisville ban no knock raids. I wish that would spread to state and local governments across the nation. But the tendency of the left towards the segregation of society and punishing dissenting voices as “racists” is, of course, not justified. It’s downright racist in fact.

 

[Denny347]

Do you not trust them to stand behind their officers?

Absolutely not.