Copying an LTCH (License to carry a hangun) redux

[crispy]

Those who have made copies... the copies come out just a shade darker right... because the copy machine picks up on the color of the original pink...

My high-end Xerox at work has a "background masking" option. Turn it on and any light background color is zeroed out.

Another good suggestion is to reduce the original to 95% or so. Not noticeable by the human eye but makes it much easier to laminate and trim and get in your wallet.

FWIW, I copied mine, then signed them with BLUE ink. To anyone looking at it, it looks less like a copy.

 

[Sig]

Interestingly enough, I just ran into this same issue. I'm not sure as to the legality of copying your permit yourself, but after much searching and calling around, I found a 100% legal way to obtain a duplicate of your license. Got to ISP: Firearms Forms and there you will find a few links. Click on Duplicate Handgun License Request and a form will pop up. Fill it out, send it in to the address listed on the top, along with a $20 money order, and within a few weeks to a month, your duplicate license will be sent to you in the mail. I called my local FWPD, who told me to call the ISP, who told me to get online and go through the process listed above. Hope this helps!

I noticed on the form there are 4 choices as to the "Reason for the Request".

Original license lost / destroyed
New Address
Legal Name Change
Other (please explain)

The form goes on to require a signature that if the information is false under penalty of perjury would be a felony. So that means the first 3 choices to get a duplicate would not be an option.

So would a request under "Other" such as a duplicate license in case the original is lost, be acceptable? Any experiences to share?

michael

 

[revolvers&w]

I think they keep a sample hermetically sealed in a darkened climate controlled vault, document the batch number from each ream of pink paper then they record the corresponding license numbers printed from each ream.
They then relenquish controll to the Secret Sevrice to combat L.T.C.H. counterfeiting.

 

[2A_Tom]

Is admitting to be breaking the law on the internet prosecutable?

Is this a rule, or is it covered in IC?

What is the penalty if YOU are caught?

I personally have never broken any law to my recollection. Ain't Alzheimer grand.

 

[ATM]

Is admitting to be breaking the law on the internet prosecutable?

No, admitting is legal.

Is this a rule, or is it covered in IC?

Neither

What is the penalty if YOU are caught?

Nothing

I personally have never broken any law to my recollection. Ain't Alzheimer grand.

I don't recall.

 

[jeremy]

Is this a rule, or is it covered in IC?

Since IC is silent on this would it not be a perfectly legal thing to do...

 

[Double T]

what about getting a tattoo with pink lettering? That should be a legal copy

 

[Malechite138]

As a new member I hate to point out the obvious: No where in the state statutes does it state that the original copy must be destroyed or surrendered if a copy is obtained from the state (or in this case ISP) like a DL does. This means by the letter of the law you can rightfully request "legal" copies from the ISP. As many as you think you might need for $20 each, and every single one would be legit (if you are really that paranoid and dont mind handing out $20 per copy). I'm betting that the ISP has yet to have a single request for "multiple" copies, and would likely have to look up the statutes to verify the legality if someone did actually make such a request.

 

[trapperDave]

fed ex kinkos in greenfield flat refused to copy mine. Hope the original lasts lol I'd sure hate to pay $20 for copy from the state. Talk about BS

 

[Bill B]

When you get a copy for $20 it says "duplicate" across the top. So duplicates must be legal.

 

[ATM]

There's still nothing illegal about making copies of your LTCH.

The $20 for the state issued duplicate is the price you pay for losing or destroying the one you should have copied in the first place.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

I am lucky, my GF works at an office supply store, not only did she have the exact color pink as the original but she made copies for me for Free.

 

[812guns]

I made a copy of mine and I keep it in my safe at home just in case. I also keep a sticker on the back of mine that has the serial number of my EDC.

 

[JettaKnight]

TL/DR
I would not trust any official responses in the OP since they all use the term permit.

The real arbitrator of your license status is the database behind the paper.

IS THIS A THREAD THAT WON'T DIE?!

 

[KG1]

There's still nothing illegal about making copies of your LTCH.

The $20 for the state issued duplicate is the price you pay for losing or destroying the one you should have copied in the first place.

^This^ The $20 bucks is their "administrative" fee for making the same kind of copy with the same information as the original that you can make for yourself cheaper.

As long as your original LTCH is still valid and hasn't been revoked then I haven't personally seen anything anywhere that making your own copies are illegal.

 

[Valvestate]

It should be an option as an endorsement on your driver's license. Makes it cheaper for everyone.

 

[japartridge]

I didn't make a copy of my LTCH, per Se... I actually did I high resolution scan of it and obtained the pretty pink paper so that I can make copies in the future with no possibility of degradation of a copy of a copy, of a copy... plus I can't lose the copy!

 

[SideArmed]

It should be an option as an endorsement on your driver's license. Makes it cheaper for everyone.

No, It shouldn't. Do you really want every bartender, server, BMV employee, Bank teller, Store merchant, Airline ticket counter employee, Bouncer, Ect Ect, to know that there is a high probability that you are carrying a gun, if you choose to CC?

 

[KG1]

I didn't make a copy of my LTCH, per Se... I actually did I high resolution scan of it and obtained the pretty pink paper so that I can make copies in the future with no possibility of degradation of a copy of a copy, of a copy... plus I can't lose the copy!

This is what I did too.

 

[UNLOCKEM]

My suggestion would be to order a copy and pay the 20 bucks so you have an extra just in case? Whaddya think?