Electrical question......

[Jaybird1980]

You are grounded by standing on the ground. Touch the hot side of a light switch with just one hand. It's still going to bite you.

No it won't, unless you're working barefoot.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

What is only one hand supposed to do?

They already lost their other one from doing it that way?

 

[Lpherr]

No it won't, unless you're working barefoot.

I promise you... it will. I've done it. Once.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I promise you... it will. I've done it. Once.

I promise you I have years of experience that says otherwise. You had to be touching something else also.

 

[actaeon277]

All I'm trying to say is, it SCARES me when untrained people work on electricity.
Take an adult education course. Hire someone.

I'd like to say I don't scare easily, and this does.
Maybe because of around 40 years working on electrical.

 

[Lpherr]

I promise you I have years of experience that says otherwise. You had to be touching something else also.

I suppose it's possible, although I assumed the power was off, and touched the hot side of the switch with my right index finger, and about wet myself. Haven't done that again.

I would like to see a demonstration though. You know, just for research and all.

 

[Jaybird1980]

I suppose it's possible, although I assumed the power was off, and touched the hot side of the switch with my right index finger, and about wet myself. Haven't done that again.

I would like to see a demonstration though. You know, just for research and all.

Anytime you're in the area I'll wire you up.

 

[Lpherr]

Anytime you're in the area I'll wire you up.

I'll continue to play on the safe side, and always shut the power off, and test with a meter or light.
My old self would fry up like a roaster chicken now days.

 

[actaeon277]

I was soldering an indicator lamp socket live.
It was DC, but I forget the voltage.
The power supply was as big as my torso.

Anyway, I have a tremor.
Now I take medicine for it, but this was before the Doc at the mill found out I was getting shocked because of it.
So, as I'm trying to solder the last wire on the socket (size of a silver dollar maybe, with 6 solder points) my tremor was causing the wire to move, and the solder iron to cross pins, causing arcing.
The operator on the OTHER SIDE of the panel, came around and yelled WTF!
I guess it looked like a lightning storm to him.

Anyway, I've escorted too many paramedics to a scene, and attended too many funerals.
So, I'd just as soon not lose an INGOer.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I was soldering an indicator lamp socket live.
It was DC, but I forget the voltage.
The power supply was as big as my torso.

Anyway, I have a tremor.
Now I take medicine for it, but this was before the Doc at the mill found out I was getting shocked because of it.
So, as I'm trying to solder the last wire on the socket (size of a silver dollar maybe, with 6 solder points) my tremor was causing the wire to move, and the solder iron to cross pins, causing arcing.
The operator on the OTHER SIDE of the panel, came around and yelled WTF!
I guess it looked like a lightning storm to him.

Anyway, I've escorted too many paramedics to a scene, and attended too many funerals.
So, I'd just as soon not lose an INGOer.

I turn the breaker off. It literally takes seconds. It's just ****ing stupid not to.

 

[actaeon277]

I turn the breaker off. It literally takes seconds. It's just ****ing stupid not to.

The breaker would shut down ALL indicator lights on an operating panel running tons of coal, heating and pulverizing.
This coal feeds the ovens to be turned into coke, which feeds the blast furnace to make iron, which makes steel slabs, which are then turned into armor, coils, or shipped to be further processed.
That would mean the cost of fixing the indicator would be in the hundreds of thousands.


Or, the trick I learned was, solder a wire on each pin, in the shop.
Put a strip the end of the wire and crimp a butt connector on.
Go in the field, cut a wire, strip it, crimp it in the new wire.
One at a time.
Presto..

 

[DoggyDaddy]

The breaker would shut down ALL indicator lights on an operating panel running tons of coal, heating and pulverizing.
This coal feeds the ovens to be turned into coke, which feeds the blast furnace to make iron, which makes steel slabs, which are then turned into armor, coils, or shipped to be further processed.
That would mean the cost of fixing the indicator would be in the hundreds of thousands.


Or, the trick I learned was, solder a wire on each pin, in the shop.
Put a strip the end of the wire and crimp a butt connector on.
Go in the field, cut a wire, strip it, crimp it in the new wire.
One at a time.
Presto..

Well, my breakers just control things like lights, refrigerators, tv's, etc.. Nothing is connected to my butt (thankfully).

Edit: And you're retired man! Let it go!

 

[JettaKnight]

I always remember that by Black to Gold.....Purdue colors. I guess I still dont understand why it made a difference how I hooked that red wire up......but that sure fixed it.

Can you usually assume a Red wire is the same as a black wire? I hate electrical and usually dont do it, but I figured how can I mess up an outlet, well....I found out how, lol.

No. That's why they're different colors.
typically red denotes a switched circuit.

It should like your switched line and non-switched lines were from separate breakers and different legs. It's good that the breaker tripped, otherwise you would have really created a dangerous situation and not known... And then the next homeowner would be cursing your name.

 

[actaeon277]

Well, my breakers just control things like lights, refrigerators, tv's, etc.. Nothing is connected to my butt (thankfully).

Edit: And you're retired man! Let it go!

Sorry, too long in the heat, too many ambulances, too many funerals.

 

[jkaetz]

Are you talking about ceiling fans?

Seen it on ceiling fans, incline fans, and some led wafer lights.

 

[Jaybird1980]

Seen it on ceiling fans, incline fans, and some led wafer lights.

The blue is common in ceiling fans for the light kit.

Really you have to understand the colors can be anything.

Green and White are the only ones that are somewhat constant, and the white can be used at times for hot. It should be marked when that happens, but that doesn't happen a lot of times.

 

[Bugzilla]

The breaker would shut down ALL indicator lights on an operating panel running tons of coal, heating and pulverizing.
This coal feeds the ovens to be turned into coke, which feeds the blast furnace to make iron, which makes steel slabs, which are then turned into armor, coils, or shipped to be further processed.

Note to the unknowing: You can’t just shut down a coke unit and start it up again. They pretty much need to run 24/7.

 

[actaeon277]

Note to the unknowing: You can’t just shut down a coke unit and start it up again. They pretty much need to run 24/7.

Well, none of the units are made to be shut down, the coke plant is just probably the worst.

 

[CHCRandy]

All this shocking talk......... I got a life's embarrassing moment story to tell on myself. I worked on Golf Courses for many years and we had electric carts. Well my boss ordered new batteries for all the carts and had me replacing them. I was about 16-17 years old, just got back from smoking another lunch and probably doing beer bongs with my buddies......and decided I was going to replace some cart batteries. Each cart had 6 batteries hooked together, I started unhooking them and was using a 9/16" open end wrench. I started unhooking the first battery and got shocked, dropped the wrench and it shorted out between the 2 posts. It turned red, I tried one time to pop it loose and wiring was starting to melt, and then I straight up went Timothy Leary and ran out of the building yelling for golfers to run for their lives!! I ran past this one old guy telling him to get out of the way, he wanted to diagnose the problem....and I had no time for that. I turn to run and that cart blew up. I have never seen anything like it. It blew the windows out of the shop, the cart seats were gone, parts of that car went flying by me and the old guy....and we were 150 feet away. I was finding battery parts weeks later, 100's of feet away. It is a miracle someone didnt die.

 

[CHCRandy]

Well, none of the units are made to be shut down, the coke plant is just probably the worst.

Yeah, I had a buddy that was electrician at UPS. He use to hate when storms would knock out power and back-up didnt kick in. Said it would take them hours to restart conveyors because of juice required for start-up.