It sounds more like BS propaganda to me.
Most pharmaceutical trials involve both a "control group" and an "experimental group" if anyone doesn't know the difference between the two groups .... the control group is given a placebo & the experimental group is given the experimental drug, in this case the experimental drug was penicillin.
Our government &/or the researchers are not evil or somehow wrong because they didn't treat the control groups gonorrhea while they were doing research & testing of a what was in the 1940's still an experimental drug..
And thanks to that testing, it was determined that penicillin was safe & effective & after wards everyone on the planet was then able to get their gonorrhea & syphilis and a whole host of other bacteriological illnesses treated at their local doctors office with either a simple shot or a prescription of pills.
Guatemala & every other nation on this planet should be thanking us for inventing penicillin & for all of the millions of lives it has saved around the globe over the last 60 years, but instead our government is apologizing for using control groups in 60 year old clinical studies?
I can't believe some of you actually believe that our researchers went around infecting uninfected people ...
I can't believe some of you actually believe that our researchers went around infecting uninfected people ...
I took a quick look into the biography of the researcher who published this report, it seems she's a far-left activist who was also once a self-described "community organizer" in NYC.
really, did u see him (Bisard) go over and check on the injured or have the EMTs check him over?No, but perhaps the Bisard Truthers are right all along.
"No government employee would endanger his career in order to cover up a crime."
Is that so? Hmmm, didn't that happen here?
"No way you can get IMPD officers, med techs, IMPD brass, paramedics, the police dog, Officer Chompy, to all say that he was not drinking. Bisard had contact with dozens of people."
Oh, really? Any other massive cover ups you would like to tell us about that could not happen?
I find this story very difficult to believe.
It sounds more like BS propaganda to me.
Our government &/or the researchers are not evil or somehow wrong
I can't believe some of you actually believe that our researchers went around infecting uninfected people ...
How about the practice of eugenics and forcible sterilization of Puerto Rican women? Which is on U.S. soil.
Eugenics Movement in Puerto Rico
I use the term "we" in the general sense.
So she "misrepresented" the part about Hillary Clinton and Kathleen Sebelius apologizing for it to the nation of Guatemala? And made up the actual quote? I would copy/paste it here, but that's against the new rules.
I guess some people will just never believe their government could do such unethical, evil things. They are far too blinded by partisan hatred and a false sense of patriotism to ever believe such a thing.
In the Tuskeegee experiment the medical researchers didn't infect uninfected people, they just studied them.
It wasn't quite as nefarious as those "on the left" would have everyone believe.
I'm sorry, but you're quibbling all morality away here.
We are talking about doctors, deliberately withholding treatment, of a disease that progresses to severe brain damage and insanity. They could have given these people a simple treatment that would have cured them, but instead they deliberately allowed their disease to progress to where it destroyed their minds and their lives.
What possible morality do you subscribe to, whereby this is not utterly nefarious?
If they treated them they wouldn't had been able to have studied the diseases progression, which sort of defeated the purpose.
Besides the participants were:
A.) all volunteers
&
B.) all compensated for their participation.
Is health care the government's business? Is it their job to study us? Is any of this even remotely constitutional?
You have a remarkable tolerance for tyranny.
Is it a tolerance of tyranny? or is it a tolerance of hyperbole? because I think it's more likely than not the latter.
Is it a tolerance of tyranny? or is it a tolerance of hyperbole? because I think it's more likely than not the latter.
I don't even know what to say to that. I think you win. The government can do no wrong.
I hope when the government scientists tell me it is my turn to be experimented on, that I am smart enough to tell them that I want the non-permanent version.
WOW. I really don't want to call you blind because you seem like a very smart man, but.... It is what it is and I guess each person just has to make one decision in life above all else:
Accept what is, or demand what's right.
You, sir, are accepting what is. Some of us, however, are demanding what's right.