Garfield Park Confederate Memorial--Its now an issue in our backyard

[HoughMade]

Wait. I just realized. Do we all have to start denying the moon landing?

Wernher Von Braun

 

[Dddrees]

Wait. I just realized. Do we all have to start denying the moon landing?

Wernher Von Braun

Oops. LOL

 

[Expat]

Seems like historical revision to get rid of a memorial reminding us of the fact that the Union killed almost 2,000 POWs at Camp Morton.

Sounds like some just feel like they had it coming so screw them.

 

[indiucky]

I figure it may be a good time to be reminded of what kind of man Robert E. Lee was.......

[video=youtube;PKDxhkSDm_s]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKDxhkSDm_s[/video]

 

[Kutnupe14]

This is a political issue.

If the people (voters) want it to be moved, the political leadership should move it. Otherwise, it is public property that should be protected.

Agreed.

 

[Leadeye]

This is a political issue.

If the people (voters) want it to be moved, the political leadership should move it. Otherwise, it is public property that should be protected.

Solid reasoning that will likely be ignored by self serving leadership and big media.

 

[Trigger Time]

Wait. I just realized. Do we all have to start denying the moon landing?

Wernher Von Braun

I don't deny the moon landing took place. What I want to know is what was the real secret mission they had. Same with modern day space exploration. We arent spending billions to grow been sprouts in gel

 

[T.Lex]

Solid reasoning that will likely be ignored by self serving leadership and big media.

And vigilante art critics with tow ropes and torque.

 

[foszoe]

I don't deny the moon landing took place. What I want to know is what was the real secret mission they had. Same with modern day space exploration. We arent spending billions to grow been sprouts in gel

It was to get culture for blue cheese

 

[Kutnupe14]

I don't deny the moon landing took place. What I want to know is what was the real secret mission they had. Same with modern day space exploration. We arent spending billions to grow been sprouts in gel

I think he's referring to Braun being an actual card carrying Nazi, and co-creator of the "V" rocket program. As far as space exploration, I don't think there's a secret (well maybe since I believe in aliens), I think it's all about who is first in militarizing the final frontier.

 

[Lelliott8]

Speaking of smug assuredness of moral superiority.

How can my views not be superior to those that end in the slaughter of millions of people?! Literally anything else is better.

 

[Trigger Time]

I think he's referring to Braun being an actual card carrying Nazi, and co-creator of the "V" rocket program. As far as space exploration, I don't think there's a secret (well maybe since I believe in aliens), I think it's all about who is first in militarizing the final frontier.

Yeah I think there's deffinately aliens.

 

[JettaKnight]

Lol. Broken record.
Nothing wrong with the confederacy and commemorating history. This just shows how the left is radical and will bite at any issue. They need to have a doctor issuing anti-depressants and anti-phsychotic drugs at the lefts rallys.
Indianapolis is ran by the dumb democrats and has been for a while (city council) so nothing will surprise me. They love shock value to keep their lazy base fired up.

Wait, wait, wait...

There's a whole lot wrong with the confederacy. Do we even have to discuss that?

I think it's a good thing to memorialize the lost with monuments, even for those on the losing side. My problem is with all the other moments that went up under the guise of "commemorating history" which were intended to to promote and continue the goals and aspirations of the confederacy.

Please show me where in another time or place there have been so many monuments to the leaders of losing side of any war.

I think it is perfectly fine to memorialize those that lost their lives, not so much for those that lead an effort to break the union and cling to the notion of slavery. Those statues should have never gone up, so it's fine and good if the people (via the elected) take them down.

 

[JettaKnight]

Seems like historical revision to get rid of a memorial reminding us of the fact that the Union killed almost 2,000 POWs at Camp Morton.

That infers that these people are thinking.

NOPE.

Not so much revision, as it is avoidance. They're feeling the potential political pressure without thinking about why this monument is here. And, heaven forbid, anyone actually go to the park, read it, learn some history, and expand their mind. Nope. We're stuck looking at everything as black and white and we miss all the grey - the grey that this monument memorializes, the grey in which these solders fought, the grey in the manner in which they died.

Remember when parks had monkey bars and hard ground that hurt when you fell? It's all gone - no more pain, no more discomfort. The same with this, remove all the plaques and monuments - no more pain, no more discomfort.

 

[foszoe]

Wait, wait, wait...

There's a whole lot wrong with the confederacy. Do we even have to discuss that?

I think it's a good thing to memorialize the lost with monuments, even for those on the losing side. My problem is with all the other moments that went up under the guise of "commemorating history" which were intended to to promote and continue the goals and aspirations of the confederacy.

Please show me where in another time or place there have been so many monuments to the leaders of losing side of any war.

I think it is perfectly fine to memorialize those that lost their lives, not so much for those that lead an effort to break the union and cling to the notion of slavery. Those statues should have never gone up, so it's fine and good if the people (via the elected) take them down.

How many civil wars in history on such a scale do we have to compare against?

 

[singlesix]

They can hires these guys.

 

[HoughMade]

Seems like historical revision to get rid of a memorial reminding us of the fact that the Union killed almost 2,000 POWs at Camp Morton.

Is it a revision, or a statement that the confederate prisoners deserved to die and shouldn't be mourned?

 

[JettaKnight]

How many civil wars in history on such a scale do we have to compare against?

True, but it's still a valid question. Where else do you find so many second place trophies on display?

Is it a revision, or a statement that the confederate prisoners deserved to die and shouldn't be mourned?

No matter what side they fought on, they were Americans; thus deserving.

 

[Jludo]

How can my views not be superior to those that end in the slaughter of millions of people?! Literally anything else is better.

Is someone here advocating the slaughter of millions of people? Or are you saying liberal views necessarily end in the slaughter of millions? I'd hate to be in Denmark when this inevitable slaughter begins...

 

[HoughMade]

...No matter what side they fought on, they were Americans; thus deserving.

Now we know your opinion, but my question is what motivates the people trying to move the memorial.