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  • DoggyDaddy

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    Oh, I will work on those skills Frank, and you should work on your skills stating that you were on vacation visiting the tourist traps of Japan, and not in the small towns and villages that really are the makeup of the true Japanese culture. And I'll tell my son that the street clothes hes wearing while off base must not look like the tourist clothes that the typical tourist wears and maybe thats why they are told sometimes their money is not wanted by that business.

    Haters Gonna Hate....

    Nobody's "hating". But tell me, does that chip you carry around cause any shoulder issues? Dang...
     

    churchmouse

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    OK people. There is no need to go Asshat in this thread. I do not care who you are I will slap the avatar right off of you.
    I already posted this up well in the beginning of this thread and those warnings will not be ignored. Not any more.

    Try me. Please.

    :bat:
     

    Tombs

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    Only thing I can add to all of this is a strong reccomendation you never try and debate any of this head on.

    It's like a deeply religious person arguing with a devout athiest that God exists or an avowed athiest arguing with a deeply religious person that God doesn't exist. The critical theory stuff in the end is a matter of faith. Statistics, argumentation, etc won't have any impact. The ones that support the position will be accepted and the ones that don't will be dismissed.

    There's actually a solid argument against atheism that doesn't really involve any religious discussion or even implications for any specific belief.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boltzmann_brain

    Effectively, it is physically possible for matter to randomly assemble its self into a type of brain and bring forth consciousness. If this happened in a higher dimension, above time, it would basically mean that after its creation it has always existed and will always exist. It would also have absolute authority and power over all lower dimensions.
    This makes it an inevitability, based on our current understanding of physics. It's a thought experiment, but it also illustrates that having faith in a god is far from irrational given this information.

    I'm unsure of something equally destructive to the rigid belief system of intersectionality.
     

    BigRed

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    Well, you know me, CM, so if I'm involved, a thread is certain to go off the rails. :abused:

    If you feel strongly enough about an issue to donate to a charity, please do it directly. United Way takes a huge portion of your contribution to feed its overhead costs. That's as much as I'm willing to say about that. Google can yield more information on that issue. It's admirable that you want to help others, but please ensure that the majority of the funds you donate go to where they are most needed.


    Thank you for posting this. I was about to post something similar. United Way is nothing but a middle man looking for its cut.
     

    Leadeye

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    Always follow the money.

    CM I am going to steal that "slap the avatar right off of you" phrase.
     

    AtTheMurph

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    Starting to understand? You can't reason with these people, you can't do anything they'll be pleased with, and they will shout racism at you 24/7/365.
    You're dealing with crazy people, mental health issues are a massive untreated issue in the US and a lot of the western world right now.

    Maybe some day we can rebuild and re-open the asylums so these people aren't out in the public terrorizing normal people.

    They aren't crazy. Don't give them the benefit of that doubt!

    They are Marxists and are working a plan to divide people based on class/race and pitting them against each other to create chaos. The more we fight the better the Marxists chances are of taking power.

    The Marxists think nothing of using you and I and any race/sex as cannon fodder. In fact I think they enjoy it!
     

    NKBJ

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    Sure they do, like their daddy.

    Lie: Check.
    Kill: Check.
    Steal: Check.
    Destroy: Check.

    OK, got it.
     

    TangoFoxtrot

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    They aren't crazy. Don't give them the benefit of that doubt!

    They are Marxists and are working a plan to divide people based on class/race and pitting them against each other to create chaos. The more we fight the better the Marxists chances are of taking power.

    The Marxists think nothing of using you and I and any race/sex as cannon fodder. In fact I think they enjoy it!
    I think the marxist and socialist movement is counting on that and anachy created by the insanity to get steeple to beg for a government to take control for them. Jmo

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    PistolBob

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    The Hispanics have made for the best neighbors we have ever had.

    These folks tend to be more two parent families, they believe with hard work they can improve their lives and that is better than getting hand outs...and most are not raising 5 kids from 5 different men that have been long gone.

    I credit a stronger sense of family.
     

    JettaKnight

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    I found it very disconcerting that the previous point was that 'whites' moving out of an area was a terrible thing and the very next point was that 'whites' moving into an area was also an equally terrible thing. Am I missing something?

    Nope. It's a bit of a paradox, isn't?


    But there is some merit to it, as CP explains:
    When white/money flight happens it take a huge portion of the tax base with them to the suburbs of the surrounding counties. With gentrification the whites/money move back and the tax base increases and those who live in the area of gentrification can no linger afford to stay in the homes they were living in. And with that they move to the poorer parts on the surrounding city's suburbs.
    And the process starts again... Lather Rinse and Repeat...Seen it a few times with DC and parts of Balt...
    Note: I was going to say this, but scrolled down before I said the exact same thing.

    So, put down the pitchforks, and don't pretend it's "whitey is the devil", and accept that it is an economic issue, that's simply based on the fact that whites have a disproportionate level of wealth. Regardless of why, or how bad that is, or whatever, it's simply a fact that leads to these two situations. Until there's a more level playing field (however that happens), these two things will continue to be an issue. It's not a right or wrong thing, it's just economic forces.


    EDIT: Whoa, this thread went wild! :drama:


    EDIT2: Kudos to OkieGirl for having an open mind about it, and not immediately playing the "white victim" card.
     
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    Clay Pigeon

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    These folks tend to be more two parent families, they believe with hard work they can improve their lives and that is better than getting hand outs...and most are not raising 5 kids from 5 different men that have been long gone.

    I credit a stronger sense of family.

    With which family, the one here or the one south of the rio grande? Its amazing they can keep the debit card pin numbers strait.
    I have worked with men that haven't been home in three years and have a one year old back in Puebla.
    Dont kid yourself that some, not all use every social service thats available... Drive by a food pantry and see whos in line with the rest of the folks.
     

    churchmouse

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    With which family, the one here or the one south of the rio grande? Its amazing they can keep the debit card pin numbers strait.
    I have worked with men that haven't been home in three years and have a one year old back in Puebla.
    Dont kid yourself that some, not all use every social service thats available... Drive by a food pantry and see whos in line with the rest of the folks.

    This is true of any group/culture.
    With the good comes a % of the bad. You already know this.
    Having done a lot of Pro-Bono work for some food pantry's in and around Indy I have seen a cross section of who and "What" makes up those lines. The "what" being" me wondering how they are out in the sunlight.....:):
    All the way through the entire gambit of society. Now lets look at the health care system. When we go to our assigned Dr's (Medicaid) we are generally the only white folks in the entire building. Eskinazi is over ran with every culture outside of us good old white folks. Very little if any English being spoken and a parking lot full of nicer vehicles than I drive. Pisses me off.
     

    JettaKnight

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    This is true of any group/culture.
    With the good comes a % of the bad. You already know this.
    Having done a lot of Pro-Bono work for some food pantry's in and around Indy I have seen a cross section of who and "What" makes up those lines. The "what" being" me wondering how they are out in the sunlight.....:):
    All the way through the entire gambit of society. Now lets look at the health care system. When we go to our assigned Dr's (Medicaid) we are generally the only white folks in the entire building. Eskinazi is over ran with every culture outside of us good old white folks. Very little if any English being spoken and a parking lot full of nicer vehicles than I drive. Pisses me off.

    Just keep telling yourself, "They all have massive loans they can never repay." :D
     

    Clay Pigeon

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    This is true of any group/culture.
    With the good comes a % of the bad. You already know this.
    Having done a lot of Pro-Bono work for some food pantry's in and around Indy I have seen a cross section of who and "What" makes up those lines. The "what" being" me wondering how they are out in the sunlight.....:):
    All the way through the entire gambit of society. Now lets look at the health care system. When we go to our assigned Dr's (Medicaid) we are generally the only white folks in the entire building. Eskinazi is over ran with every culture outside of us good old white folks. Very little if any English being spoken and a parking lot full of nicer vehicles than I drive. Pisses me off.

    With where you live you miss seeing the migrants and short term factory workers of the rural parts of Indiana. My older sister has about 20 spanish fulltime workers and maybe 30+ H2B that are here for 9 months of the year... I would bet that 50% of them have two familys and the family here the woman they have kids with have subsided housing, wic and snap with telling the state we have no daddy around. And daddy lives with them.
    Daddy is working and pays almost no tax with being 24 years old and has 6 dependants on his W2...

    I can go on and on.... But like I've said not all are like that.... But most miss whats really happening....
     
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