Gifting a gun from Texas resident son to IN resident mother? Need a FFL?

[Bunnykid68]

I will donate $5 towards the fee

 

[wtfd661]

We all agreed at the end. Nothing to see here.

And you thought there was nothing else to see here, remember this is INGO, even when in agreement there will still be arguing.

 

[blink]

Why couldn't the OP buy the gun for his MIL. As long as she is a proper person I thought it was legal to buy for someone else. OP and BIL could do the transfer themselves and then gift it to MIL.

 

[Bunnykid68]

Why couldn't the OP buy the gun for his MIL. As long as she is a proper person I thought it was legal to buy for someone else. OP and BIL could do the transfer themselves and then gift it to MIL.

I think he already owns the gun in Texas, therefor he must transfer it to be legal.

 

[blink]

I think he already owns the gun in Texas, therefor he must transfer it to be legal.

BIL is from Texas. I assumed the OP (smiledochill) is an Indiana resident. Transfer the gun from BIL to OP to be legal getting it into the state. MIL can stay out of it until she opens the gift.

 

[Bunnykid68]

BIL is from Texas. I assumed the OP (smiledochill) is an Indiana resident. Transfer the gun from BIL to OP to be legal getting it into the state. MIL can stay out of it until she opens the gift.

I see what you are saying now. That would work perfectly and be legal.

 

[sloughfoot]

I thought the 4473 did not have details on the make, model, or serial number of the gun. I thought the 4473 and NICS was to verify that the receiver of a firearm is legal to possess a firearm.

What part of the process "transfers" any specific firearm?

In the absence of registration, how can a specific firearm be "transferred? Somebody please explain what I am missing.

If my MIL wants a gun and asks me for one, she gets it. She isn't going to any FFL to prove what we both already know, that she is a proper person under the law to possess a firearm.

This whole tread is very confusing with people dancing around the real questions.

 

[nakinate]

I thought the 4473 did not have details on the make, model, or serial number of the gun. I thought the 4473 and NICS was to verify that the receiver of a firearm is legal to possess a firearm.

What part of the process "transfers" any specific firearm?

In the absence of registration, how can a specific firearm be "transferred? Somebody please explain what I am missing.

If my MIL wants a gun and asks me for one, she gets it. She isn't going to any FFL to prove what we both already know, that she is a proper person under the law to possess a firearm.

This whole tread is very confusing with people dancing around the real questions.

False. I don't dance. Ever.

 

[Bunnykid68]

I thought the 4473 did not have details on the make, model, or serial number of the gun. I thought the 4473 and NICS was to verify that the receiver of a firearm is legal to possess a firearm.

What part of the process "transfers" any specific firearm?

In the absence of registration, how can a specific firearm be "transferred? Somebody please explain what I am missing.

If my MIL wants a gun and asks me for one, she gets it. She isn't going to any FFL to prove what we both already know, that she is a proper person under the law to possess a firearm.

This whole tread is very confusing with people dancing around the real questions.

It is just what the feds require when a handgun crosses state lines, has to go thru an FFL to be legal,

 

[Manatee]

I thought the 4473 did not have details on the make, model, or serial number of the gun. I thought the 4473 and NICS was to verify that the receiver of a firearm is legal to possess a firearm.

The FFL is required to put in the details on the 3rd page of the 4473.

 

[sloughfoot]

So firearms are indeed tracked by make, model, and serial number? So there is in fact, registration?

 

[Gluemanz28]

My BIL is here from Texas and has a handgun he is going to give to my MIL as a gift for Christmas. He purchased from FFL dealer in Texas, transported legally with him to IN and plans to give it to her in the next week or so. I know there are situations where gifting a gun is different than a private sale but I don't have the confidence to say whether he is OK or whether he has to do a transfer through a FFL?

What is the verdict?

Why couldn't the OP buy the gun for his MIL. As long as she is a proper person I thought it was legal to buy for someone else. OP and BIL could do the transfer themselves and then gift it to MIL.

I thought about this but one of the questions is are you buying or in this case transferring the gun for yourself. Legally the OP would not be if he was doing so for the MIL. That is why I suggested to give/loan the gun as a gift then if a transfer had to be completed anyway then put it in the MIL's name. It would be good for her to see the process and how simple it is in case she decides she wants another. It would also be a good time while at the GS/FFL to go through accessories and get her some eye and ear protection, ammo and whatever else a good son and SIL would get for her and make her feel special.

 

[sig-guy]

So firearms are indeed tracked by make, model, and serial number? So there is in fact, registration?

Yes, the information is recorded on the 4473 form. Along with your DL information.

The information is not given over the phone or sent in when purchasing ONE item. The FFL is required to retain the 4473. If there's ever a problem, the ATF can request to look at such forms.

If you purchase 2 or more items at a time (or same FFL in 5 days), the FFL has an extra form to fill out and it gets faxed. So at this point, someone else also has the information.

 

[Gluemanz28]

I'm not too worried about the registration process. I sold all my guns to some guy at a gun show that looks just like this guy for cash.

 

[GunnerDan]

Actually, I'd be glad to. But they are on the other side of town from Greenwood. But, if I do it, I want Gunner to volunteer an hour of his time at a food bank for opening his mouth to donate someone else's time.

How about this, tonight I spent 2 hours Christmas Caroling with our church men's chorus at a couple of local nursing homes, and next Saturday I am going to be serving the homeless a hot Christmas meal.

Gunner

 

[Manatee]

That would work.

 

[J81s82]

I would go through a FFL just to be on the safe side

 

[nakinate]

I'm not too worried about the registration process. I sold all my guns to some guy at a gun show that looks just like this guy for cash.

Manatee? Buying guns from people at shows?

 

[WebSnyper]

I thought the 4473 did not have details on the make, model, or serial number of the gun. I thought the 4473 and NICS was to verify that the receiver of a firearm is legal to possess a firearm.

What part of the process "transfers" any specific firearm?

In the absence of registration, how can a specific firearm be "transferred? Somebody please explain what I am missing.

If my MIL wants a gun and asks me for one, she gets it. She isn't going to any FFL to prove what we both already know, that she is a proper person under the law to possess a firearm.

This whole tread is very confusing with people dancing around the real questions.

Well, if you like announcing on an internet forum that you break laws related to guns go right ahead... if the parties are residents of different states then an FFL transfer is required. The "transfer" is a background check to confirm that the purchaser is a proper person (nothing more, nothing less), and again, is required when the parties are residents of differing states.

I would go through a FFL just to be on the safe side

or to be legal, whichever you prefer

 

[Expat]

Why do some people have to be a wiener in every comment they make?