Guns in Israel - A lesson for us...

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Israeli gun ownership rising as violence surges

Israel's new right-wing government has loosened gun laws in response to deadly attacks.

www.bbc.com

"Israeli gun ownership is low at about 2% of the population. It compares to about 30% of the population owning a gun in the US.

Usually citizens are allowed to hold a pistol and a limit of 50 bullets."

'We don't want to be like America': Will Israel's government adopt new gun laws?

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www.haaretz.com

Israel To Loosen Legal Gun Licensing - The Media Line

Late Friday night, Israeli National Security Minister Itamar […]

themedialine.org

Interesting info, but watch some of these poor folks shoot...

 

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https://polisci.barnard.edu/sites/default/files/inline-files/Hannah%20Katz%20-%20Guns%20in%20America%20vs%20Israel.pdf

 

[Kirk Freeman]

INGO should remember that the Israel you hear of in the gun culture is a perversion of reality.

Israel was founded by hardcore Socialists. That worldview, and it hatred for the individual and his liberty, still runs Israel.

 

[Ark]

"At least we're not like America"

-Unarmed Israelis watching their families get killed or carried off by terrorists

Despite their supposedly "marshal" society, Israelis turn in their rifles at the end of the training day and go home to houses where they are overwhelmingly disarmed and forbidden from protecting themselves. "Don't worry, the IDF will protect us..." until they don't. Granted I don't live next to an open-air prison full of radical Islamists, but this has only confirmed my decision to be armed for the 1,000th time. Bad things always happen faster than the response to bad things.

 

[Cameramonkey]

"At least we're not like America"

-Unarmed Israelis watching their families get killed or carried off by terrorists

Despite their supposedly "marshal" society, Israelis turn in their rifles at the end of the training day and go home to houses where they are overwhelmingly disarmed and forbidden from protecting themselves. "Don't worry, the IDF will protect us..." until they don't. Granted I don't live next to an open-air prison full of radical Islamists, but this has only confirmed my decision to be armed for the 1,000th time. Bad things always happen faster than the response to bad things.

Correct. You live IN a prison full of thugs since you are in Indy. Just sayin. (its only marginally less safe)

 

[bloodandgutsmurphy]

Firearm ownership in this country has to be greater than 30%.

I hope the Israelis continue advocating for their right to keep and bear arms

 

[bobzilla]

As much as I would like it to be different, so we really think it would be much different in certain cities here? Seattle? Portland? San Fran? They’d be rounded up like sheep as they were in Israel

 

[Ark]

Correct. You live IN a prison full of thugs since you are in Indy. Just sayin. (its only marginally less safe)

I'm not locked in here with you.

You're locked in here with me.

 

[MrSmitty]

INGO should remember that the Israel you hear of in the gun culture is a perversion of reality.

Israel was founded by hardcore Socialists. That worldview, and it hatred for the individual and his liberty, still runs Israel.

Maybe it's just me, but If I knew, at some point in history, my family, and fellow Jews were rounded up, and put into cattle cars because they were defenseless, I would want to be armed and trained..Google the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising...just a few guns held off the nazi bastards for a month...."Never again" should be ingrained into their souls, culture, and way of life!

 

[KokomoDave]

It should but the Hassidic pacifist culture is strong among the older population that currently hold positions in the government. My grandmother was one of those hardliners and she hated violence. When my dad left for Korea, it put too much strain on her and she soon divorced my grandfather to move back to Israel.

 

[Bennettjh]

I'm very thankful to live in the U.S.A.

Watching the events in Israel just solidifies my gun ownership beliefs even more. Never give up your guns.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Firearm ownership in this country has to be greater than 30%.

I hope the Israelis continue advocating for their right to keep and bear arms

The William English/Georgetown survey from 2021 had it around 35% IIRC. I think a lot of gun owners don't say they are gun owners.

I did some reverse-engineering on the numbers (population and number of firearms in the US: ) I felt pretty confident 55% is more like it.

 

[KellyinAvon]

6.7 privately owned firearms per 100 Israelis.

US is 120.5 per 100 population.

Gun Ownership by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

 

[Denny347]

Correct. You live IN a prison full of thugs since you are in Indy. Just sayin. (its only marginally less safe)

Oh now, not true at all. Maybe you forgot the purple.....

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

Oh now, not true at all. Maybe you forgot the purple.....

Says the man from Napganistan... LOL

 

[Cameramonkey]

Oh now, not true at all. Maybe you forgot the purple.....

Partially true. They just arent rampaging shooting anything that moves. LOL

 

[Denny347]

Says the man from Napganistan... LOL

Yup, lived here all my life, no plans on leaving anytime soon. "Napganistan" does have a nice ring to it though.

 

[edporch]

6.7 privately owned firearms per 100 Israelis.

US is 120.5 per 100 population.

Gun Ownership by Country 2024

worldpopulationreview.com

I don't doubt the 120.5 per 100 in the U.S. statistic.
But it's a bit misleading because out of 100 people in this country, it doesn't tell us how many of the 100 people actually own a gun, and how many of the hundred each own many guns.

 

[JAL]

The William English/Georgetown survey from 2021 had it around 35% IIRC. I think a lot of gun owners don't say they are gun owners.

I did some reverse-engineering on the numbers (population and number of firearms in the US: ) I felt pretty confident 55% is more like it.

55% may be a bit high nationally for legal owners, but it's got to be more than 35%. I could be way off. The Free State of Indiana would/should be higher than the national average. Many firearm owners won't admit to ownership on surveys as they don't trust them and do NOT want anyone -- especially strangers -- to know they own firearms. I haven't told my sister I own firearms, or any other immediate or extended family member except my brother. One metric would be the percentage of 18 and older adults who were issued an LTCH just prior to the Constitutional Carry law going into effect. That wouldn't be the number of owners, but you would know it's got to be something substantially higher than that. Households with firearms in them would be another meaningful metric . . . if it could be measured. I could see that going well over 50%.

 

[BigMoose]

Most American gun owners.