HB 1253 Handgun Training for Teachers

[Coach]

I wish I could have made it but I ended up driving for Uber too late and didn’t get to bed until 4 AM. Any amendments? Or does that happen at the second reading? Eliminating GFZ on school buses or school properties would be terrific but I see that falling by the wayside once the wrangling begins (if it hasn’t happened already).

Those were amended out first thing today.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Props to Coach!! He batted lead off and crushed it! Synopsis coming later tonight. Great news on the vote, I cut out at 1130 since I said I'd be back to work by lunch. Two more to testify when I left, the one Up as I was walking sounded looney.

 

[brotherbill3]

Thanks Coach - we can all take turns buying a drink or dinner perhaps ...

sorry I'm still sidelined by life ... (Sorta like what CBH said ) and the day job being a pain.
I'll watch for synopsis and read/ watch follow up later.

Hope to see these move along. ... Sounds like Jim when for the full run of the hopscotch thing and got a jump in and ... well I never did get that game ...1 step forward.

 

[SwikLS]

So correct me if I'm wrong, this bill would make all school property like college campuses and private property in general. Its not illegal to have a gun on school property but the school can still have a policy of no guns and if asked to leave because you are found to be carrying a gun you must leave or be charged with criminal trespass?

 

[Coach]

So correct me if I'm wrong, this bill would make all school property like college campuses and private property in general. Its not illegal to have a gun on school property but the school can still have a policy of no guns and if asked to leave because you are found to be carrying a gun you must leave or be charged with criminal trespass?

The bill was amended this morning and the ability to carry would fall only to school employees who have completed the mandatory training. The training and carrying of firearms would be by voluntary employees only and only if the local school board decided it was ok.

 

[lonehoosier]

The bill was amended this morning and the ability to carry would fall only to school employees who have completed the mandatory training. The training and carrying of firearms would be by voluntary employees only and only if the local school board decided it was ok.

So how is that any different than the law that’s already in place now? It seems like all they did was add another restriction to the law with the training.

 

[PhxCollier]

A suit and tie version of coach. Looked good on channel 13 @ 5

 

[2A_Tom]

So how is that any different than the law that’s already in place now? It seems like all they did was add another restriction to the law with the training.

My thought exactly.

 

[Coach]

I think the improvement with this bill is that it will help coax school districts to take the first real step toward protecting students. School folks have no idea how to actually protect the students from this type of attack. I think this will be a step in the right direction. There is major opposition to this bill and it will take grassroots support and a lot of calls to make it happen.

 

[KellyinAvon]

A suit and tie version of coach. Looked good on channel 13 @ 5

You ain't a ****in, I didn't recognize him this AM. Coach got a quote on FOX 59 too:

“When evil comes calling at the classroom door it has to be met head on with people who are armed and trained,” said high school teacher Aron Bright.

https://fox59.com/2019/02/11/bill-to-give-indiana-teachers-firearm-training-passes-critical-vote/

 

[cbhausen]

From the FOX 59 article:

“ISTA maintains that arming teachers is not the appropriate answer to these kinds of safety concerns,” said Keith Gambill, vice president of the Indiana State Teachers Association.The organization said the money proposed for firearms training should instead go to mental health and counseling services for students.“We believe that the school safety resources need to be directed at issues that are directly impacting students,” said Gambill.

I guess coming face-to-face with a school shooter isn't "directly impacting" enough???
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[KellyinAvon]

So correct me if I'm wrong, this bill would make all school property like college campuses and private property in general. Its not illegal to have a gun on school property but the school can still have a policy of no guns and if asked to leave because you are found to be carrying a gun you must leave or be charged with criminal trespass?

No. HB 1253 provides a grant for 40 hours of training (for those who qualify) for school employees (amendment passed this morning changed it from teachers to school employees). School boards still have the say on this. By doing that a lot of support came the bill's way.

I have a crap-ton of notes from this morning. After dinner I'll translate from hieroglyphics to INGO-ese on what all happened.

 

[KellyinAvon]

From the FOX 59 article:

“ISTA maintains that arming teachers is not the appropriate answer to these kinds of safety concerns,” said Keith Gambill, vice president of the Indiana State Teachers Association.The organization said the money proposed for firearms training should instead go to mental health and counseling services for students.“We believe that the school safety resources need to be directed at issues that are directly impacting students,” said Gambill.

I guess coming face-to-face with a school shooter isn't "directly impacting" enough???
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That guy was a real DB, more to follow.

 

[Dead Duck]

No. HB 1253 provides a grant for 40 hours of training (for those who qualify) for school employees (amendment passed this morning changed it from teachers to school employees). School boards still have the say on this. By doing that a lot of support came the bill's way.

I have a crap-ton of notes from this morning. After dinner I'll translate from hieroglyphics to INGO-ese on what all happened.

Ahhh come on. Just take a picture. I love reading doodles.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Ahhh come on. Just take a picture. I love reading doodles.

Coach was probably saying to himself, "Is that even in English??" I went through it, I'm not sure what some of the symbols actually mean.

 

[HICKMAN]

Passed 8 to 2.
Kelly did a great job. I hope my contributions helped.

I hope what I said to channels 13 and 4 helped the cause.

Just happened to walk by my wife's TV and BAM!! There you were!! Great job Coach!

 

[bwframe]

Any video/links for this?

 

[cbhausen]

And I just heard KellyinAvon on the 6 o’clock WIBC news. Awesome job!

 

[dudley0]

I have yet to get to a TV but the mere idea of seeing Coach in a suit is enough to make me shiver.

Thanks so much for taking this on, especially as a cost to you financially. My spouse works for a school, so I still get a bit of happiness even tho I will not be allowed to carry there.

Maybe I can become a substitute cook or some such, then take the training and be allowed to carry when I visit her.

Thanks to all for the support of this.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Ahhh come on. Just take a picture. I love reading doodles.