IN LTCH holder shoots and kills robber in Chicago.

[KLB]

I suspect you're correct, to a point: no DIRECT affect on the gangs. However, if and when more people legally carry, and with a few more perpetrator ventilations, such as this one, behavior gets modified. However, it is a slow process.

In my little corner of Morgan County, a halfway nice weekend afternoon sounds like you are just outside a shooting range. I suspect because it is well-know that most homeowners in this area are armed, we have a relatively low burglary rate.

On the other hand, maybe knowing the victims are more likely to be armed will increase the risk-taking and aggressiveness of the gang-bangers' attacks.

I just fear for the kind of difficulty the victim in this case will suffer, because, Chicago.

Sounds like my part of Porter County. There are few nice days where you can't hear gun fire.

The biggest issue I see with the gangs is they have no respect for life, their's or anyone else's. That is the majority of their murder(shooting) problem.

Hopefully more people carrying will help with the everyday muggings, carjackings and such.

 

[halfmileharry]

Geez and Rice....Why even put yourself and family in that area?
Job? Money? Why would you want to live like that?
What do you tell yourself? Odds are good I'm not going to get killed today?

 

[printcraft]

Tagging for pending civil rights violation.

 

[Butch627]

Geez and Rice....Why even put yourself and family in that area?
Job? Money? Why would you want to live like that?
What do you tell yourself? Odds are good I'm not going to get killed today?

I guess you have never been in that area of the city in the last 10 years or so. It is considered a pretty safe area. There is a store that sells uniforms, and equipment for police about a block away and it is common to see police cars parked nearby. If someone was robbed at a mall in an area considered to be safe near you would you not ever go to that mall again?

The word is getting out, here is a cops take on it Second City Cop: Indiana CCL

 

[chipbennett]

Excellent suggestion to send this story to Joe Donnelly.

 

[OurDee]

 

[miguel]

I guess you have never been in that area of the city in the last 10 years or so. It is considered a pretty safe area. There is a store that sells uniforms, and equipment for police about a block away and it is common to see police cars parked nearby. If someone was robbed at a mall in an area considered to be safe near you would you not ever go to that mall again?

The word is getting out, here is a cops take on it Second City Cop: Indiana CCL

Comments are great on this one.

"If they charge him, he needs to have his lawyer look up all the times when two ****heads have shot at each other, and the state declines to prosecute because they were mutual combatants. Democratic enforcement of the law. Truly the dumbest people on the planet."

Is this for real?

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Comments are great on this one.

"If they charge him, he needs to have his lawyer look up all the times when two ****heads have shot at each other, and the state declines to prosecute because they were mutual combatants. Democratic enforcement of the law. Truly the dumbest people on the planet."

Is this for real?

There are so many cases in Cook County, Illinois that the threshold for prosecution is completely different than any county in Indiana.

 

[HoosierLife]

I hate to say it, but the more this guy gets railroaded, the better our chances for national reciprocity.

 

[Alamo]

Second City Cop has this comment in an earlier post about the incident:

This would put Concealed Carriers exactly one single shooting behind the Chicago Police Department, with a week left in the year. That should be a national headline.

Interesting.

Second City Cop: Another CCL Shooting?


Putting all the stories and SCC comments together, sounds like Hoosier was initially cuffed and held, but then released without charges.


ETA: SCC post comparing SD shootings with CPD shootings: Second City Cop: New Statistic Category

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Geez and Rice....Why even put yourself and family in that area?
Job? Money? Why would you want to live like that?
What do you tell yourself? Odds are good I'm not going to get killed today?

That area? It's University Village/Little Italy. Just a few blocks south of where I lived (Mid-Loop). It is a great place to work and live, and many do.

Only a fraction of Chicago is the "wild west". There are 7 or 8 areas that are rough. The rest of Chicago is gentrification on steroids.

The homicides are concentrated=>One-third of US homicide spike last year came from 5 Chicago neighborhoods

 

[Bigtanker]

 

[KLB]

That area? It's University Village/Little Italy. Just a few blocks south of where I lived (Mid-Loop).

Only a fraction of Chicago is the "wild west". There are 7 or 8 areas that are rough. The rest of Chicago is gentrification on steroids.

The homicides are concentrated=>One-third of US homicide spike last year came from 5 Chicago neighborhoods

It is spreading some Kirk. The worst of the gang shootings are in those areas, but the rest of the city is not immune.

 

[Kirk Freeman]

It is spreading some Kirk. The worst of the gang shootings are in those areas, but the rest of the city is not immune.

You have the same concerns in any city. We could go on at length about bad things happening is great neighborhoods, including the murder in my own, all over Indiana.

Chicago is not the barren waste from Mad Max that the media portrays it. If Chicago would allow the good people (and there are many) to fight back against the bad people (they are few), then Chicago would not have the reputation that it does.

 

[GNRPowdeR]

I enjoy Chicago's opportunities for fun, yet have avoided the beautiful city because of their politics for the last few decades...

Sound like a great job of protecting himself and (unfortunately) a test case for the next decade.

 

[Alamo]

Hmmm. SCC points this out: SHHHH! Muggings In The Loop Are Out Of Control, Up 132% In Three Years 356 muggings in 2017 as of mid-December

On the bright side, no homicides in The Loop for 2017. Yet. Map of 2017 homicides: 2017 Deadliest ?hoods | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!

 

[KLB]

You have the same concerns in any city. We could go on at length about bad things happening is great neighborhoods, including the murder in my own, all over Indiana.

Chicago is not the barren waste from Mad Max that the media portrays it. If Chicago would allow the good people (and there are many) to fight back against the bad people (they are few), then Chicago would not have the reputation that it does.

I didn't say or think it was. I work downtown, so I see it a lot more than I would like.

The politics there are horrible. I am surprised they are not losing more population than they are.

 

[actaeon277]

You have the same concerns in any city. We could go on at length about bad things happening is great neighborhoods, including the murder in my own, all over Indiana.

Chicago is not the barren waste from Mad Max that the media portrays it. If Chicago would allow the good people (and there are many) to fight back against the bad people (they are few), then Chicago would not have the reputation that it does.

Well, not just "allow".
Too many of the "good" have been brainwashed their entire life that self defense is wrong.

 

[2A_Tom]

4 pages and no one has asked what his INGO username is.

 

[DeadeyeChrista'sdad]

4 pages and no one has asked what his INGO username is.

I'd say we're slipping, but it is late... in the year...