Indianapolis to pursue legal action against opioid manufacturers

[hoosierdoc]

A colleague and good friend of mine had his mother harping on him to NEVER take any narcotic for pain relief, because she was worried about addiction. His injury: HE WAS SHOT, with one round passing through his side and another blowing out his elbow. The attitudes like your FIL's are widespread and persistent, and do not help.

well, the bullet wasn't in there anymore, so what was causing the pain? I learned from westerns that once you dive in and get the bullet out people do much better, if they survive your invasive search for an inanimate object

 

[HoughMade]

no, I think her temp was around 98.3, but she normally runs 97.4 so that's a fever for her. You show me the attractive narcotic dependent patient who has traveled the country seeking help for migraines and I'll hand you excaliber.

hough... is that a valid argument in med mal cases, that we missed a "fever" of 98.6 because they normally run 97.2?

It's not an invalid argument (I could work with it)...but I assume the issue isn't necessarily "fever", but infection...and I would ask if there were other signs...to which you will answer "no" and ensure that the records agree...ensure that the records agree. Are we clear?

 

[MarkC]

well, the bullet wasn't in there anymore, so what was causing the pain? I learned from westerns that once you dive in and get the bullet out people do much better, if they survive your invasive search for an inanimate object

You're right! Since both rounds went through the victim, given the examples shown in the westerns, he should have been just fine. No need for for the incredibly invasive search with the dirty, unsterilized gigantic Bowie knife!

 

[actaeon277]

You're right! Since both rounds went through the victim, given the examples shown in the westerns, he should have been just fine. No need for for the incredibly invasive search with the dirty, unsterilized gigantic Bowie knife!

Everyone knows you dribble whiskey on the knife.

 

[wtfd661]

Everyone knows you dribble whiskey on the knife.

Isn't that just wasting the whiskey?

 

[actaeon277]

Isn't that just wasting the whiskey?

Turning bowie knives into germ free surgical instruments is hardly a "waste".

 

[Leadeye]

...and my kids will graduate from college debt free. Oh yes, there is an upside.

I made sure my kids graduated from college debt free, it gives them quite a leg up in the modern world.

 

[wtfd661]

Turning bowie knives into germ free surgical instruments is hardly a "waste".

But it takes the fun out of it

 

[IndyDave1776]

Right. It's the 97% that give the rest a bad name.

Q: How many lawyer jokes are there?
A: Only three. The rest are true stories.

I'll be here all week, try the veal and don't forget to tip your wait staff!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to BehindBlueI's again.

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[hoosierdoc]

here's a fun tidbit: methadone clinics need to have you test positive for opioids before they can begin therapy for your addiction.

We had a patient who was buying methadone on the street and it does not flag urine drug screens positive for opioids so they couldn't get him started. They told him to go out and buy a few Percocet, take those, then come back and be tested so they could treat him. What a system.

 

[ultra...good]

here's a fun tidbit: methadone clinics need to have you test positive for opioids before they can begin therapy for your addiction.

We had a patient who was buying methadone on the street and it does not flag urine drug screens positive for opioids so they couldn't get him started. They told him to go out and buy a few Percocet, take those, then come back and be tested so they could treat him. What a system.

So, is there a black market for methadone too?
Must be a reason they do not give it to just anyone.

 

[hoosierdoc]

So, is there a black market for methadone too?
Must be a reason they do not give it to just anyone.

oh yeah. Heck, there's a black market for antibiotics to treat the skin infections you get from injecting.

I see people on methadone or suboxone who simply skip a day or two so they can shoot heroin, then go back on the treatment meds.

 

[ultra...good]

I lost 2 brothers to opiate use. They are both still alive, but they are lost.
Watching the progression of it all it did not seem to be such a big deal, back when we would get together often, especially in the summer time. I knew something was wrong, but not sure what.
Now I see them once a year at best, moms at Christmas. When you do not see them for a while and then see what has changed with them over a year, it is sad.