Indiana's Push for Medical Marijuana

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I'd believe it but Dr's must be capitulating to patients for this to continue.

Let's not place the blame where it fundamentally belongs -- the patient. It's easy to blame big, rich companies and doctors but we're all ultimately responsible for our own actions. I'm not saying there aren't doctors that don't have blame but to lay the blame solely there is wrong.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Dont you think though that by prescribing these not needed pharmaceuticals your the pusher on the corner. Seems to me that this is part of the problem with pharmaceutical drug abuse is the docs prescribing them when they are not needed nor effective. Once again, not trying to be a ahole, so please dont take it as such.

People complain when they don't get what they want. Management doesn't like handling complaints.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

With obesity and lack of activity...it just may be true.

Weed will help with that, I'm sure. One thing kids need is something to stimulate their appetite and suppress their ambition.

Ending the practice of socializing the results of personal decisions would likely address this.

 

[Jludo]

Let's not place the blame where it fundamentally belongs -- the patient. It's easy to blame big, rich companies and doctors but we're all ultimately responsible for our own actions. I'm not saying there aren't doctors that don't have blame but to lay the blame solely there is wrong.

I agree patients should be responsible for themselves but in this system we have, Dr's are the gatekeepers and hence ultimately responsible. We can argue against the prescription system and put full responsibility on the patient but as of now prescribing is absolutely the responsibility of the Dr.

 

[d.kaufman]

Let's not place the blame where it fundamentally belongs -- the patient. It's easy to blame big, rich companies and doctors but we're all ultimately responsible for our own actions. I'm not saying there aren't doctors that don't have blame but to lay the blame solely there is wrong.

Im not placing blame entirely there, but i certainly don't think it helps. I believe in cases like that the docs should maybe be able to use a placebo in place of prescribing actual drugs
And i do agree it is in those types of situations the patients are at fault.
This, if i don't get what i want, crap needs to stop at all levels, and management not wanting to deal with these whiny snowflakes is not a good excuse either.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I agree patients should be responsible for themselves but in this system we have, Dr's are the gatekeepers and hence ultimately responsible. We can argue against the prescription system and put full responsibility on the patient but as of now prescribing is absolutely the responsibility of the Dr.

give us some examples of inappropriate prescriptions, other than pain meds

 

[Jludo]

give us some examples of inappropriate prescriptions, other than pain meds

Over use of antibiotics

 

[Cameramonkey]

I really hope they legalize soon. I really need some to treat my... My... Umm.... Cubital Tunnel Syndrome. Yeah. Thats it!

How well does it do for ingrown toenails?

 

[hoosierdoc]

Over use of antibiotics

that's fair. definitely a CYA thing on the docs part and a patient satisfier. I am pushed to write for Abx by patients all the time when I tell them they likely just have a cold and it will pass.

Even culture proven bacterial bronchitis in a smoker does not need antibiotics according to the studies. But try to convince them of that, especially after they spend $1800 on an ER visit

 

[hoosierdoc]

I really hope they legalize soon. I really need some to treat my... My... Umm.... Cubital Tunnel Syndrome. Yeah. Thats it!

How well does it do for ingrown toenails?

1: Gross
2: Probably great!

 

[Kirk Freeman]

Well, you say that, but have you had it offered to you by a blond in a loose kimono?

Like in Caddyshack? "Here's an uncashed check for 70,000. There's a bunch of them."

I've had women do this at Stately Freeman Manor, but it's a Smith K frame and not a trust fund check for 70K.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Dont you think though that by prescribing these not needed pharmaceuticals your the pusher on the corner. Seems to me that this is part of the problem with pharmaceutical drug abuse is the docs prescribing them when they are not needed nor effective. Once again, not trying to be a ahole, so please dont take it as such.

you misunderstood. They are not needed if patients choose diet and lifestyle modification. They don't. So they need meds.

 

[Trigger Time]

The war on drugs is a failure. It hasn't even put a dent in drugs they have just increased, and new types introduced, more crime. And it will never get any better no matter how many are jailed or arrested or in treatment or die. Basicly drugs have funded law enforcement since the 70's at increased rates over the years.
Legalize All Drugs. Legalization is The only thing that will drop crime and drasticly decrease abuse. Let people kill themselves and De-fund the crime organizations that profit from drugs. Also reduce the amount of time law enforcement wastes over drug enforcement and related crimes.
Allow those who seek real medical benefits to use it also.
And everyone can go back to minding their own damn business

 

[2ADMNLOVER]

To all you guys who say there's no medicinal use , you're wrong .

How many of you guys have experience with it ?

How many of you guys have had life altering accidents and have had all kinds of drugs prescribed ?

How many of you actually read the info that comes with the drugs and know about " off label use " and all the BS side effects ?

If there's a " drug " who's only known " side effects " are happy , hungry , horny and sleepy AND gives the patient physical(pain) AND psychological relief , what's the problem ?

How many of you know about kratom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa ?

Our guberment is treating Kratom like MJ EVEN THOUGH there is plenty of personal use stories that say it has helped them get off the prescribed " medications " .

Once again patients are getting NATURAL relief and big pharma is pissed because they aren't getting their cut .

 

[KellyinAvon]

To all you guys who say there's no medicinal use , you're wrong .

How many of you guys have experience with it ?

How many of you guys have had life altering accidents and have had all kinds of drugs prescribed ?

How many of you actually read the info that comes with the drugs and know about " off label use " and all the BS side effects ?

If there's a " drug " who's only known " side effects " are happy , hungry , horny and sleepy AND gives the patient physical(pain) AND psychological relief , what's the problem ?

How many of you know about kratom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitragyna_speciosa ?

Our guberment is treating Kratom like MJ EVEN THOUGH there is plenty of personal use stories that say it has helped them get off the prescribed " medications " .

Once again patients are getting NATURAL relief and big pharma is pissed because they aren't getting their cut .

Nice try, DEA!!

 

[Expat]

Marijuana Users Risk Schizophrenia, But the Drug Helps Pain - NBC News

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...galize-nationally-jeff-hunt-column/536010001/

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Marijuana Users Risk Schizophrenia, But the Drug Helps Pain - NBC News

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...galize-nationally-jeff-hunt-column/536010001/

Big pharma probably has something to help with that schizophrenia...

 

[Expat]

Big pharma probably has something to help with that schizophrenia...

They are a helpful group.

 

[HoughMade]

Marijuana Users Risk Schizophrenia, But the Drug Helps Pain - NBC News

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...galize-nationally-jeff-hunt-column/536010001/

[video=youtube;y7EpSirtf_E]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7EpSirtf_E[/video]

Anyhoo, all this freedom talk, seems like if you think there are too many prescription drugs...I don't know...don't take them?

Crazy thought, I know.

 

[hoosierdoc]

To all you guys who say there's no medicinal use , you're wrong .

who is arguing that?