Indy Police shoot Homeowner instead of Perp

[Alpo]

Not work out well for Leo? Dude, he is slaying it. They walk off the set at the Victoria Secret photo shoot and then to his apartment.

Past tense.

Why is everyone having troubles with metaphors? Too much rain on the soybeans?

 

[bobzilla]

We are all very impressed. Good Boy.

It's only because he doesn't know the number.

 

[BehindBlueI's]

It's only because he doesn't know the number.

I tried to put in on speed dial, but I can't find the 11 on my new smart phone.

 

[Dirtebiker]

I didn't even know there was a racial element to it until you mentioned it. I'd just assumed both people involved (cop and homeowner) were white.

But now that you mentioned this, I can see the eggshells lying around that I couldn't see before.

Why would you assume anything about their race?

 

[bobzilla]

I tried to put in on speed dial, but I can't find the 11 on my new smart phone.

It's not the fancy one then. Mine goes to 11 on the pad.

 

[foszoe]

I tried to put in on speed dial, but I can't find the 11 on my new smart phone.

You need the Spinal Tap version....

 

["Username"]

Full functioning ER in the home 'eh? I'm jealous.

Some may observe, and even correctly so, that this individual did not need a fully functioning ER until after he called 911.

There is nothing to be jealous over or for.

This is a bad situation by any account.

 

[THE BIG SITT]

Why would you assume anything about their race?

Seeing how we didn't really hear anything about their race, I would say that is a good assumption.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Why would you assume anything about their race?

"Assume" probably the wrong word... I just "imagined" the scenario, didn't really think of what race either person was, as it's a highly unimportant detail. But then some people made it an important detail... and at that point I got tired of the story because that's all it was going to be about from then on.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So the Washington Post headline of this event?

"A black homeowner called 911 to report a carjacking. He wound up getting shot by police."

Such an absolutely bull****, pot-stirring headline. The comments in the Reddit thread, as expected, are ****ting all over the police and "rules of engagement". Good lord this is stupid now.

Media takes a local news story that shouldn't have made it further than the Indy Star... and turns it into another "cops hate black people" thing.

 

[skulhedface]

I know the homeowner, not exceptionally well but as a coworker. Not sure he'd approve of the way they're trying to spin it. Bad situation for all involved.

 

[Dirtebiker]

Seeing how we didn't really hear anything about their race, I would say that is a good assumption.

Good point!

 

[Dirtebiker]

"Assume" probably the wrong word... I just "imagined" the scenario, didn't really think of what race either person was, as it's a highly unimportant detail. But then some people made it an important detail... and at that point I got tired of the story because that's all it was going to be about from then on.

Gotcha!

 

[churchmouse]

I have been trying to follow this but the info has been muddled up with the ****ing race card.
This is getting so old.

Spouse and I both would like to know the real deal here.

 

[Rookie]

I had this story running through my mind last night...

We got a call from the alarm company that my FIL burglar alarm was going off. We told them to dispatch the police and asked them to give a description of my vehicle. We got there and the police hadn't arrived, so I parked in the alley, left my lights on, and turned my interior lights on. A few minutes later, a police officer walks around the corner pointing a taser in my general direction (he was using it as a light). I stayed still with my hands on the wheel until he came up to the window to talk to me.

 

[churchmouse]

I had this story running through my mind last night...

We got a call from the alarm company that my FIL burglar alarm was going off. We told them to dispatch the police and asked them to give a description of my vehicle. We got there and the police hadn't arrived, so I parked in the alley, left my lights on, and turned my interior lights on. A few minutes later, a police officer walks around the corner pointing a taser in my general direction (he was using it as a light). I stayed still with my hands on the wheel until he came up to the window to talk to me.

Approaching LEO with a handgun (any gun really) especially in these troubled times is just not a good idea.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I have been trying to follow this but the info has been muddled up with the ****ing race card.
This is getting so old.

Spouse and I both would like to know the real deal here.

It's hard not to get it muddled. People who claim police shoot innocent black people too often are going to seize on this type of stuff, and ask why are black people not even accused, or known, to be committing a crime being shot? And ask how often white people in similar circumstances are shot. If one can't illustrate some sort of parity in these accidents/unfortunate misunderstandings, then it's difficult to say these stories are "muddled."

 

[thunderchicken]

Kut - I agree some people will certainly jump on the "why are black people not accused or known to be committing a crime being shot" band wagon. And maybe there are pockets of truth in what they see. But I agree with churchmouse, what are the facts of what happened? It has been muddled with speculation because of race issues, and a lack of a clear explanation of events. I would add that as best my memory serves, accidental shootings by LE are very rare. So my perspective is we need the air cleared. What are the facts of what happened? And how can LE and us armed citizens learn from this unfortunate situation?

 

[Cameramonkey]

Based on the reports:

Armed carjacker reported.
Officer arrived quietly so as to not scare away the bad guy to find an armed man in the garage (where a car would be, thusly a carjacker is expected to also be)
Officer probably startled the homeowner who instinctively moved toward the officer's direction with gun in hand (not necessarily advancing, big diff) thinking the officer is the BG. (after all, no lights/sirens yet so cops arent there)
Homeowner and officer both believed they were dealing with the BG and bad things happened.

On the surface I dont fault the officer at all. Now if more details come out my opinion may change. (caller told dispatch her husband was outside with a gun, etc)

I hope if my analysis is accurate the homeowner gets out in front of this and nips the faux race issue in the bud. We dont need that kind of nonsense out there when it doesnt exist. Sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar.

Oh, and I like that we hoosiers (even the hood rats) are sane enough to not doing stupid human tricks like rioting.

 

[skulhedface]

Based on the reports:

Armed carjacker reported.
Officer arrived quietly so as to not scare away the bad guy to find an armed man in the garage (where a car would be, thusly a carjacker is expected to also be)
Officer probably startled the homeowner who instinctively moved toward the officer's direction with gun in hand (not necessarily advancing, big diff) thinking the officer is the BG. (after all, no lights/sirens yet so cops arent there)
Homeowner and officer both believed they were dealing with the BG and bad things happened.

On the surface I dont fault the officer at all. Now if more details come out my opinion may change. (caller told dispatch her husband was outside with a gun, etc)

I hope if my analysis is accurate the homeowner gets out in front of this and nips the faux race issue in the bud. We dont need that kind of nonsense out there when it doesnt exist. Sometimes a cigar really is just a cigar.

Oh, and I like that we hoosiers (even the hood rats) are sane enough to not doing stupid human tricks like rioting.

My understanding of the situation is that your assessment is fairly accurate. The worst part in this from my view is that I believe most of us would have done the same thing as the homeowner with the same result and most of us would have done the same as the officer. No winners here and nobody with clean hands either. The homeowner, officer, even dispatch all share some responsibility and none to my knowledge did anything that they would reasonably do differently if in that situation again.