Interesting - Torture in Chicago

[indyjoe]

Why are those pieces of **** still breathing?

Because honest citizens can't carry guns in Chicago to protect themselves from terrorists.

 

[GunSlinger]

What punishment should be applied?

First a fair and fast trial, and then if found guilty a chlorine bleach enema should do it.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

WTHR is reporting that it may be treated as a hate crime... we'll see I guess.

 

[halfmileharry]

What punishment should be applied?

First a fair and fast trial, and then if found guilty a chlorine bleach enema should do it.

For $200 Alex... What is Drano and a funnel?

 

[Kutnupe14]

Animals like that are what prisons were made for.They can't be rehabilitate.

I agree with this. Throw away the key.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Hate crimes only work on us Woobie. Not a racist statement so no need to go there just saying, show me one and I will stand down.

Unless "us" means people, I have to challenge this belief Church. Only about 54% of hate crimes are attributed to white people. 24.3% by black people (according to the FBI). Do you still need a specific instance in order to stand down?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released

 

[churchmouse]

I agree with this. Throw away the key.

I can see these sentiments and understand them.

"But"....yes always a "But".....how much are we as tax payers supposed to be burdened with to house/feed/medicate these cretins.
Absolutely nothing less than full life terms. In this again, the costs involved.
Cost may be a poor way to look at this but it is a serious factor.

 

[churchmouse]

Unless "us" means people, I have to challenge this belief Church. Only about 54% of hate crimes are attributed to white people. 24.3% by black people (according to the FBI). Do you still need a specific instance in order to stand down?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released

Thanks for stating this. I just never seem to hear of this working the other way.
I stand corrected.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Thanks for stating this. I just never seem to hear of this working the other way.
I stand corrected.

The media wants you to think a certain way.

 

[churchmouse]

The media wants you to think a certain way.

Agreed but I try not to follow to closely to avoid the overdose of they serve.
Even with the numbers you give it seems a bit biased towards "Us" (my culture) given the stats on committed crimes.
There have been so many murders against "Us" (again, you know) with the same elements of torture etc and not one word of "Hate" when we know that is some of the reasons behind it. Yes, there is hate everywhere.
Again, not the pile just stating what I personally see. I wish things were different.

 

[halfmileharry]

The media wants you to think a certain way.

Agreed Kut.
Some use a pen and others a prod.
The bottom line is we're being led down a path with a pre-determined end.

 

[churchmouse]

Agreed Kut.
Some use a pen and others a prod.
The bottom line is we're being led down a path with a pre-determined end.

And I agree with this as well. Look at who now owns the media outlets.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Unless "us" means people, I have to challenge this belief Church. Only about 54% of hate crimes are attributed to white people. 24.3% by black people (according to the FBI). Do you still need a specific instance in order to stand down?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/latest-hate-crime-statistics-report-released

It appears these are only crimes officially identified as hate crimes. No mention is made of crimes that could have been, much less, should have been but weren't identified as hate crimes.

GFGT [doesn't support the concept of hate crimes but if we're gonna do it, it should be equitably applied, everywhere].

 

[churchmouse]

It appears these are only crimes officially identified as hate crimes. No mention is made of crimes that could have been, much less, should have been but weren't identified as hate crimes.

GFGT [doesn't support the concept of hate crimes but if we're gonna do it, it should be equitably applied, everywhere].

Exactly my point.

If I am going to hurt/kill you I already must hate you at some level unless it is self defense. Even in that there is a measure of hate.
Just enforce the existing laws. We do not need "Special" laws.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

Exactly my point.

If I am going to hurt/kill you I already must hate you at some level unless it is self defense. Even in that there is a measure of hate.
Just enforce the existing laws. We do not need "Special" laws.

Right. Murdered is murdered, raped is raped, brutally beaten is brutally beaten, arson is arson, regardless of the motives. If it was a willful act, punish accordingly. I'm all for that. There should be a range of punishment fitting to particular heinousness of the crime. But somehow people think they're getting an extra pound of flesh or something by attaching a special label to a crime.

 

[OakRiver]

Chicago police hold four over live-streamed attack - BBC News

Police Commander Kevin Duffin said the police would investigate whether a hate crime had taken place.
"They're young adults, and they make stupid decisions," he said, and, in reference to the language used, investigators would seek to "determine whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving", he said.

 

[churchmouse]

Chicago police hold four over live-streamed attack - BBC News

Police Commander Kevin Duffin said the police would investigate whether a hate crime had taken place.
"They're young adults, and they make stupid decisions," he said, and, in reference to the language used, investigators would seek to "determine whether or not this is sincere or just stupid ranting and raving", he said.

Skirting the real issues here in respect to the possible riots/marches as they were great kids.
Just getting this out there 1st.

This was no mistake. The actions were planned.
Putting it on social media was a mistake.

 

[HoughMade]

Get rid of "hate crimes" altogether an punishpeople what what they do, not what the say while they are doing it.

 

[churchmouse]

Get rid of "hate crimes" altogether an punishpeople what what they do, not what the say while they are doing it.

Bingo.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Get rid of "hate crimes" altogether an punishpeople what what they do, not what the say while they are doing it.

Isn't a hate crime simply a type of aggravating circumstance? If it is, they do have they place.