I've been converted, BS, no I havn't

[Super Bee]

Will probably do a write in. . . not really sure who yet. Cruz possibly.

Maybe even Ace. . would love to have a rocker in the white house who wears a cape.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

So, you don't believe that a shift in the supreme court will be a problem?

Sure, it'd be a problem. If people want pro-2A and reliable SCOTUS picks... why not vote for Johnson or McMullen if it's that important? Both have a better 2A record than Clinton or Trump.

I guess we have to assume that she'd run in a similar manner as Obama... by Exec Order instead of through congress. I half expect her to get impeached, because I also expect a GOP-heavy Congress.

GPIA7R,
Good comments I hope you are right.
I am gonna be on the winning side whoever wins.
You see some animals are more equal than others!
I am also guiding trips on the Ohio river. For a small sum of $101.00 I will testify that you lost all of your fireams in the river on the trip.

I may take you up on that service one day. Do I get a receipt or invoice?

Therein lies the crux of the problem for me...I can vote my values or I can vote for the Supreme Court. If Hillary wins, she may not get any of her policies through and she may not get any headway on the anti 2A front but her activist Supreme Court nominee(s) will be there long after she is gone.

Who'll appoint them? I still think she'd be up against a GOP congress.

 

[OutdoorDad]

A vote for Anderson is a vote for Anderson.

Maybe I'll make up for past sins and write him in.

 

[Brad69]

I do provide a invoice with all firearms noted along with a grainy long distance video.

 

[printcraft]

...... I don't think this is going to be smooth for her. .......

LULZ

 

[2A_Tom]

Will probably do a write in. . . not really sure who yet. Cruz possibly.

That would be good for you.

Sure, it'd be a problem. If people want anti-2A and unreliable SCOTUS picks... why not vote for Johnson or McMullen if it's that important? Both have a better 2A record than Clinton or Trump.

FIFY

We don't need a third party spoiler, there will be a vote for everyone in the country and Hillary will win 27%, Trump 15%, Al Bundy 3%,
Johnson 0.1%, McMullen 0.01% and 205,000 single votes for others.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

FIFY

We don't need a third party spoiler, there will be a vote for everyone in the country and Hillary will win 27%, Trump 15%, Al Bundy 3%,
Johnson 0.1%, McMullen 0.01% and 205,000 single votes for others.

Then go back to the primaries... there were better 2A/SCOTUS choices in the GOP field... and people that would actually have a ground game... and put actual money into this... and have a real fighting chance to win and pick up more of these pissed Bernie-bros.

Why not choose them? Why get duped into backing the one that was guaranteed to lose? I mean... if 2A/SCOTUS really mattered.

 

[Fargo]

So, you don't believe that a shift in the supreme court will be a problem?

Trump is as authoritarian as Hillary, if not more so. I would guess his SCOTUS picks would be similar to FDR's and that is a terrible thing.

Trump's current lip service to the 2nd Amendment is exactly that.

 

[2A_Tom]

Then go back to the primaries... there were better 2A/SCOTUS choices in the GOP field... and people that would actually have a ground game... and put actual money into this... and have a real fighting chance to win and pick up more of these pissed Bernie-bros.

Why not choose them? Why get duped into backing the one that was guaranteed to lose? I mean... if 2A/SCOTUS really mattered.

Unless that is supposed to be purple, You may not have noticed the primaries are over. They couldn't garner the votes to get the nomination, I have to assume you are trying to get Hillary elected. Maybe you believe that after a few years the light will go on in all of our heads and we will all become Obtuse Libertarians and all think alike.

 

[Fargo]

Unless that is supposed to be purple, You may not have noticed the primaries are over. They couldn't garner the votes to get the nomination, I have to assume you are trying to get Hillary elected. Maybe you believe that after a few years the light will go on in all of our heads and we will all become Obtuse Libertarians and all think alike.

Nothing in what he said in anyway remotely supports the proposition that he is trying to get Hillary elected.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Unless that is supposed to be purple, You may not have noticed the primaries are over. They couldn't garner the votes to get the nomination, I have to assume you are trying to get Hillary elected. Maybe you believe that after a few years the light will go on in all of our heads and we will all become Obtuse Libertarians and all think alike.

My point was... why not choose someone more 2A/SCOTUS friendly back then?

"trying to get hillary elected"... come on, don't say silly things. Nothing I've said implies this.

No, I was as Conservative as they came before this election. Maybe you didn't read many of my posts until today. However, after this election cycle, I'll no longer consider myself a "Republican"... I still have my values, and I'll vote for the candidate that closely aligns with them. Right now, there is no candidate.

The GOP definitely does not align with my values anymore. They want to back a Democrat, they want to back a guy that's for unconstitutional S&F, or an all-around anti-1A bully who will sue to shut people up.... that isn't me.

 

[foszoe]

Then go back to the primaries... there were better 2A/SCOTUS choices in the GOP field... and people that would actually have a ground game... and put actual money into this... and have a real fighting chance to win and pick up more of these pissed Bernie-bros.

Why not choose them? Why get duped into backing the one that was guaranteed to lose? I mean... if 2A/SCOTUS really mattered.

You answer your own question. There was such a talented field that the votes were split among them. Combine that with the ego of each candidate that thought they could win that they stayed in the race until it was too late.

 

[mrjarrell]

My point was... why not choose someone more 2A/SCOTUS friendly back then?

"trying to get hillary elected"... come on, don't say silly things. Nothing I've said implies this.

No, I was as Conservative as they came before this election. Maybe you didn't read many of my posts until today. However, after this election cycle, I'll no longer consider myself a "Republican"... I still have my values, and I'll vote for the candidate that closely aligns with them. Right now, there is no candidate.

The GOP definitely does not align with my values anymore. They want to back a Democrat, they want to back a guy that's for unconstitutional S&F, or an all-around anti-1A bully who will sue to shut people up.... that isn't me.

You forgot that he's also for seizing firearms from citizens via stop and frisk. And his buddies at the NRA are fully behind him.

 

[2A_Tom]

My point was... why not choose someone more 2A/SCOTUS friendly back then?

Well I didn't vote for trump in the primary, but it didn't make any difference.

"trying to get hillary elected"... come on, don't say silly things. Nothing I've said implies this.

Suggesting multiple people to vote for will just make a lot of write in votes for people (who may be very good folks) that are unelectable.

No, I was as Conservative as they came before this election. Maybe you didn't read many of my posts until today. However, after this election cycle, I'll no longer consider myself a "Republican"... I still have my values, and I'll vote for the candidate that closely aligns with them. Right now, there is no candidate.

I am also a Constitutional conservative. I will anything to keep Hillary out so there is only one alternative. I will not waste my vote on a really good conservative who can not win this time.

The GOP definitely does not align with my values anymore. They want to back a Democrat, they want to back a guy that's for unconstitutional S&F, or an all-around anti-1A bully who will sue to shut people up.... that isn't me.

I agree The gop is not what I once thought it was, it was broken when RR was nominated and when Newt was speaker. It is a horse with two broken legs that needs to be shot. The Democrat party is a malignant cancer.

 

[Roadie]

I used to be a fairly Moderate Republican. I didnt understand why people carried guns, I supported tax hikes, etc. About 8 years ago I started researching gun ownership, which led me to a lot of Right leaning websites, of course, that led me to more "Tea party" or Libertarian pages, etc.

Now I am a pro gun, pro carry, Constitutional Conservative with Libertarian leanings

So yeah, people can be converted, but with this election? Uhm, I dont think I can be convinced to vote for any of them lol

 

[ArcadiaGP]

You forgot that he's also for seizing firearms from citizens via stop and frisk. And his buddies at the NRA are fully behind him.

Yep, seeing them all try to pretend it's constitutional, and Pence come out and say it's totally legal.... That helped shake off whatever I had left with these people.

 

[bwframe]

Stop-And-Frisk Is 'Illegal' Because Of One Rogue Judge | The Daily Caller

Is Stop-and-Frisk Unconstitutional?

 

[Fargo]

Stop-And-Frisk Is 'Illegal' Because Of One Rogue Judge | The Daily Caller

Is Stop-and-Frisk Unconstitutional?

Define for me what exactly you are referring to as "stop and frisk" please.

 

[bwframe]

Define for me what exactly you are referring to as "stop and frisk" please.

I'm not referring to, GP and Jarrell are.

 

[Fargo]

I'm not, GP and Jarrell are.

I want to know what you believe the practice referenced in your links consists of.