Just What Is It That DJ Trump That Inflames Passions? Who Is Against Him? Why?

[Ingomike]

People who don't like Trump or his policies are against him. People who don't like Biden or his policies are against him. It's really not any more complicated, if that's the question.

Maybe i should have been more specific as to my goal in asking the question. Who is spending money and treasure against Trump? Against Biden? Thinking more groups but some heavy hitters like Soros...

 

[jamil]

Not a question, but something that should be acknowledged.

Since, ya know, the opposition is dead set on calling him a dictator.

Sure. I have some relatives whose facebook page looks like a collection of conspiracies. And they think right wingers are nuts! Holy **** some of those stories are out there.

 

[Twangbanger]

Maybe i should have been more specific as to my goal in asking the question. Who is spending money and treasure against Trump? Against Biden? Thinking more groups but some heavy hitters like Soros...

Ok, here's a less pie-in-the-sky attempt to answer your question:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...long-after-hes-gone/ar-BB1a9ITg?ocid=msedgntp

[FONT=&amp]"...(Biden) says he would tackle the backlog of immigration cases by increasing the number of immigration judges, court staff, and interpreters...he’d have to confront the claims of tens of thousands of asylum seekers stuck south of the border under Trump, as well as those who have already been waiting years to have their claims heard..."[/FONT]

Oh, goody-goody gumdrops! We're going to hire more judges, court staff, and interpreters to work through the "backlog" of immigration cases (read: let in the people denied by Trump). Jobs, jobs, jobs!

How about:

[FONT=&amp]"...Under Trump, the government has adopted what's known as a "public charge" rule, which would deny permanent legal status to immigra(nts) who might use, or whose U.S. citizen children might use, public benefits...While these policies have been tied up in litigation, they have already had a chilling effect, discouraging thousands from accessing benefits in California and other states..."
[/FONT]
...Noooo! Discouraging foreigners from using public benefits? (Make sure you read the link immediately above - it is a real hooter).

And here's the money-shot:

[FONT=&amp]"...The Trump administration has also sought to restrict citizenship in other ways, raising fees and slowing processing of hundreds of thousands of potential 2020 voters waiting to be naturalized — most of them in California, [/FONT]according to a report by Boundless Immigration[FONT=&amp]..."[/FONT]

I don't know which is the more disturbing: the attempt to pump up California voter rolls, or the fact there exist two different organizations called "Boundless Migration" and "Boundless Immigration:"

BoundlessMigration

https://www.boundless.com/

Take a scroll around those websites. Some here like to endlessly debate the definitions of words. I think I'm getting an idea what is meant by "Boundless."

Coming to America is a business. ​If you want to know who's really ate-up about Donald Trump, here's another slice of the answer.

 

[KG1]

A lot of people are ate-up about Donald Trump because he threw a major monkey wrench in their agenda driven gears when he was elected over HRC in 2016.

 

[jamil]

A lot of people are ate-up about Donald Trump because he threw a major monkey wrench in their agenda driven gears when he was elected over HRC in 2016.

I think that has a lot to do with the Republican defection. They’re going where establishment is more sure.

Democrats/Republicans: Hail Hydra.

 

[NKBJ]

Maybe i should have been more specific as to my goal in asking the question. Who is spending money and treasure against Trump? Against Biden? Thinking more groups but some heavy hitters like Soros...

And even Soros is a functionary, a front man.

 

[johny5]

A lot of people are ate-up about Donald Trump because he threw a major monkey wrench in their agenda driven gears when he was elected over HRC in 2016.

I would be more willing to believe that if I had not seen their behavior during the Bush administration. This is, unfortunately, not new. They hated Bush. Everything was his fault.

They do not hate Trump, per se. They hate anyone or anything that impedes their power. They are harnessing the fear and distrust of the electorate in the hopes of regaining that power.

It has no more to do with Trump and his conduct than it did Bush. The next person to successfully disrupt or interfere with the left and their insatiable desire to control the lives of others will face the same guile, regardless of their personality.



EDIT: For clarity - I think we are saying the same thing. I think it goes beyond just Trump, but agree that it was his disruption of their plans that has them so angry.

 

[Sailor]

Our President has a "sleep over" with a "dancer" gets caught and calls her a horse face on twitter. I expect more out of our leaders.

 

[Ingomike]

Our President has a "sleep over" with a "dancer" gets caught and calls her a horse face on twitter. I expect more out of our leaders.

No, a private citizen had a sleepover, and yes he called her horse face.

Now if we want to talk about presidents, wow, did you hear about the president getting hummers and flavored cigars in the Oval Office from a government employee? He called her Miss Lewensky, but lied about it under oath. But because he was so genteel it's ok...

 

[Sailor]

No, a private citizen had a sleepover, and yes he called her horse face.

Now if we want to talk about presidents, wow, did you hear about the president getting hummers and flavored cigars in the Oval Office from a government employee? He called her Miss Lewensky, but lied about it under oath. But because he was so genteel it's ok...

You are right on #1
On number #2 it's not ok, never was.

Every 4 years its the same thing. Gin up the hate on both sides so we can get the money flowing in to support the status quo. I am not playing this game.

 

[churchmouse]

You are right on #1
On number #2 it's not ok, never was.

Every 4 years its the same thing. Gin up the hate on both sides so we can get the money flowing in to support the status quo. I am not playing this game.

Then don't. Easy peasy.

These people are human beings. Each and every one of them. I seriously doubt that any POTUS from any time would survive the microscopic probing they have given Trump. You need to take that into consideration. None of us.....you me them, none of us would survive the litmus test he has endured.

Now the Horse face thing might be a stretch but I have to agree actually. Was it presidential.....Nope. But remember, he is not a politician per-say. Not giving a pass but by comparison to we willy's adventures under in and on the desk in the oval office Trumps pails by comparison. If you-all don't like the man I am good with that. But please look at the work he has gotten done. Please.

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Boy, the forum gets pretty active around election time huh? Last 2 weeks I’ve seen people here I’ve never seen before.

 

[BugI02]

I think that has a lot to do with the Republican defection. They’re going where establishment is more sure.

Democrats/Republicans: Hail Hydra.

Wll played, sir

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Then don't. Easy peasy.

These people are human beings. Each and every one of them. I seriously doubt that any POTUS from any time would survive the microscopic probing they have given Trump. You need to take that into consideration. None of us.....you me them, none of us would survive the litmus test he has endured.

Now the Horse face thing might be a stretch but I have to agree actually. Was it presidential.....Nope. But remember, he is not a politician per-say. Not giving a pass but by comparison to we willy's adventures under in and on the desk in the oval office Trumps pails by comparison. If you-all don't like the man I am good with that. But please look at the work he has gotten done. Please.

I would bet in the days of George Washington and James Madison if you had microphones and cameras around them all day, some of the things they would have been caught saying would have made heads explode. They were the smartest men alive at that time, but I guarantee they were still men and said some stuff that wasn’t politically correct. I care not what people say, but what they do.

 

[Keith_Indy]

I voted for Trump to be a wrecking ball against the status quo political establishment...

Never thought it would be as revealing as it has been. It is clearer who is in bed with the political establishment, those in the media, industry, politicians, and military who are going out of their way to suppress news, gin up fake controversies, and chill actual dissent.

Trump needs a 2nd term to clean house.

He didn't go far enough, he should have fired any holdovers from the Obama administration for starters.

I can only speak to my own reasons.

 

[BugI02]

Our President has a "sleep over" with a "dancer" gets caught and calls her a horse face on twitter. I expect more out of our leaders.

That is an example of the fallacy that 'character' (as defined by one's opposition) has more than the most tenuous effect on how capable a leader one turns out to be

See: Jimmy Cartah

 

[BugI02]

Boy, the forum gets pretty active around election time huh? Last 2 weeks I’ve seen people here I’ve never seen before.

I'm here all the time, and you've never 'seen' me

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Then don't. Easy peasy.

These people are human beings. Each and every one of them. I seriously doubt that any POTUS from any time would survive the microscopic probing they have given Trump. You need to take that into consideration. None of us.....you me them, none of us would survive the litmus test he has endured.

Now the Horse face thing might be a stretch but I have to agree actually. Was it presidential.....Nope. But remember, he is not a politician per-say. Not giving a pass but by comparison to we willy's adventures under in and on the desk in the oval office Trumps pails by comparison. If you-all don't like the man I am good with that. But please look at the work he has gotten done. Please.

Maybe he was just mis-heard. Maybe he was saying something about the whore's face?

Edit: If it was on Twitter, maybe he was a victim of auto correct.

 

[NKBJ]

I voted for Trump to be a wrecking ball against the status quo political establishment...

Never thought it would be as revealing as it has been. It is clearer who is in bed with the political establishment, those in the media, industry, politicians, and military who are going out of their way to suppress news, gin up fake controversies, and chill actual dissent.

Trump needs a 2nd term to clean house.

He didn't go far enough, he should have fired any holdovers from the Obama administration for starters.

I can only speak to my own reasons.

It really has been made clear. Boy howdy who'd a thunk it could be made so clear!

 

[Tombs]

Then don't. Easy peasy.

These people are human beings. Each and every one of them. I seriously doubt that any POTUS from any time would survive the microscopic probing they have given Trump. You need to take that into consideration. None of us.....you me them, none of us would survive the litmus test he has endured.

Now the Horse face thing might be a stretch but I have to agree actually. Was it presidential.....Nope. But remember, he is not a politician per-say. Not giving a pass but by comparison to we willy's adventures under in and on the desk in the oval office Trumps pails by comparison. If you-all don't like the man I am good with that. But please look at the work he has gotten done. Please.

I'd say Trump is probably one of the cleanest billionaires to ever walk the face of earth, considering what has been found after the level of investigation that has been done on him.

I also have a feeling that level of cleanliness is driving force behind people getting so angry at Trump. There's just not much to go after so they have to resort to more and more crazy hoaxes.