Kroger stabbing: Employee killed during shift at Waynedale Kroger in Indiana

[ECS686]

I’ve seen stabbings where it looked like simple rapid punching. So it could have been a case of someone armed didn’t know what they were seeing. And unless the victim had a plain white Tee shirt this time of year I doubt there would be blood before it was over and the perp fled.

To many uncertain facts to say “well if I was there” because most folks outside someone that has been around violence that carries have zero realization of what they are seeing. It’s not always like the movies. And reading a report of “victim shot or stabbed” we have the luxury of knowing after the fact and not assessing WTF and I looking at and plan accordingly.

Just my thoughts!

 

[Chance]

So before you answer the question about assistance consider what you would hope for if it was you mother, wife or daughter on the receiving end of the aggression. Would you want me to walk away with the ability to stop it?

 

[JCSR]

So before you answer the question about assistance consider what you would hope for if it was you mother, wife or daughter on the receiving end of the aggression. Would you want me to walk away with the ability to stop it?

Excellent post. I made the commitment to do everything within the law to protect myself and others. Just like I would hope someone would do for me.

 

[Twangbanger]

Somebody has that Kroger statement saved in a word file.

 

[J Galt]

Am I the only one wondering what happened to lead up to the stabbing? In other words, what made him do it?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Am I the only one wondering what happened to lead up to the stabbing? In other words, what made him do it?

See post #17.

 

[Kurr]

Coroner report on Waynedale Kroger stabbing victim released

The Allen County Coroner has released the report on the Kroger employee who was stabbed to death in the Waynedale store Thursday morning.

www.wfft.com

The victim has been identified as Perla A. Nieto, 59, of Fort Wayne.

The cause of death is stab wounds to the head and the manner of death is homicide, according to the report.

30-year-old Jermard Lewis stabbed Kroger employee Perla Nieto to death because he was upset about an earlier interaction they had.

FORT WAYNE, Ind. (WANE) – Fort Wayne police have arrested a man linked to the stabbing at the Kroger in Waynedale that killed an employee Thursday morning. Fort Wayne Police have preliminarily charged Jermard J. Lewis, 30, with murder. Lewis was arrested within four hours of the crime incident...

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Lewis reportedly walked into the store just after 11:00 a.m. and headed straight toward the victim, who was identified in court documents at Perla Nieto.

Lewis is then accused of grabbing Nieto from behind and stabbing her before pulling Nieto to the floor and continuing to stab her, according to court documents.

Lewis was previously convicted of a felony count of battery to a law enforcement officer stemming from an incident in 2017 in which he was accused of throwing a block of wood at officers who were positioned inside the Bud Meeks Justice Center

He pleaded guilty to the battery charge as part of a plea agreement that resulted in a 2-year suspended prison sentence.

Lewis violated his probation due to “failure to report” and “non-compliance with court ordered programs,” according to court records.

A judge revoked Lewis’ probation and he ultimately spent about a year in the Indiana Department of Correction before being released in 2020.

 

[Chance]

He supposedly had an altercation earlier in the day and threatened employees then and said he would be back.

 

[cedartop]

I’ve seen stabbings where it looked like simple rapid punching. So it could have been a case of someone armed didn’t know what they were seeing. And unless the victim had a plain white Tee shirt this time of year I doubt there would be blood before it was over and the perp fled.

To many uncertain facts to say “well if I was there” because most folks outside someone that has been around violence that carries have zero realization of what they are seeing. It’s not always like the movies. And reading a report of “victim shot or stabbed” we have the luxury of knowing after the fact and not assessing WTF and I looking at and plan accordingly.

Just my thoughts!

Cmon, everybody knows with prisons being actual gun free zones there is no violence there.

 

[Chance]

Ultimately you have to make the call for yourself. What do you think would happen if Eli had just turned around and walked out of the Greenwood mall that day? What did happen in Uvalde when no one helped those children? Lots to consider.

 

[ECS686]

Cmon, everybody knows with prisons being actual gun free zones there is no violence there.

Like I always say, just because thugs go to prison doesn’t mean they stop thugin they just thug in Prison!!!!

 

[Ark]

Ultimately you have to make the call for yourself. What do you think would happen if Eli had just turned around and walked out of the Greenwood mall that day? What did happen in Uvalde when no one helped those children? Lots to consider.

Fox59 reporter: "What was going through your mind when you decided to engage that mass shooter and save all those lives?"

Me: "Mass shooter? "

I live for the day I get to drop some Dylan Klebold wannabe in front of the lego store in Castleton Square and get to troll the first hapless journo who tries to ask me about it.

 

[Robert Richardson]

How many gun carriers would take action to defend someone that wasn't them or a loved one?

Sadly, not too many. I've read a lot of comments on this forum that people actually stated that they wouldn't get involved if they weren't the person getting attacked. . Sad world we live in.

 

[KokomoDave]

Yes, he was stabbing her in the coconut and anyone could clearly see he was the obvious aggressor and would meet Mr. Bullet from either my J frame or BHP.

 

[bwframe]

There are a lot of factors involved.

Are you right there, seeing it all happen or did you just hear someone scream and responded from a couple isles over?

When you get there, is it a knife or is it a punch? Which one is the bad guy?

If the killer turns and runs, how many rounds do you put in them then?

What about collateral damage in a busy Kroger? What if the round that kills the bad guy also stops in a little girls head? Her mom's?

If I'm in Kroger, I'll always be armed. Prepared to help in any way possible. It's not as simple as my presence with a pistol ends all evil though.

 

[Twangbanger]

There are a lot of factors involved.

Are you right there, seeing it all happen. Or did you just hear someone scream and respond from a couple isles over?

When you get there, is it a knife or is it a punch? Which one is the bad guy?

If the killer turns and runs, how many rounds do you put in them then?

What about collateral damage in a busy Kroger? What if the round that kills the bad guy also stops in a little girls head? Her mom's?

If I'm in Kroger, I'll always be armed. Prepared to help in any way possible. It's not as simple as my presence with a pistol ends all evil though.

Then there's the fact private citizens don't have qualified immunity.

 

[ECS686]

Then there's the fact private citizens don't have qualified immunity.

Those are trigger words for some here. You’ve done it now.

 

[Amishman44]

Was going to mention this the other day on one of the INGO threads, but this is a good spot to. Is it just me, or are the amount of stabbings increasing at an alarming rate under Bidont.

Many stabbing incidents go unreported in the news as they are not firearm-related incidences!
IMO...stabbing incidents fly 'under-the-radar' and are left unknown to the general public.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Then there's the fact private citizens don't have qualified immunity.

Key word being qualified. It isn't absolute. So many don't understand that and bring it up without remembering the "qualified" part.

 

[Frank_N_Stein]

Those are trigger words for some here. You’ve done it now.

Well if you are going to try to trigger someone with it, at least understand what it means.