Last Jedi ***WITH SPOILERS***

[Woobie]

Uh huh.......I had a bet with myself and you guys made me win........

Do you owe yourself a cheeseburger?

 

[churchmouse]

Do you owe yourself a cheeseburger?

Yes with pub fries.

 

[churchmouse]

And bacon

 

[snapping turtle]

Good movie but not my Star Wars. Poor writing poor hand off from director to director. To Disney ish. Not dark enough. To much cutting a good heavy screen into a joke of some kind. Poor flow if the director was a DJ he would Ben mixing AC/DC with disco.

Rant on:
Luke Astro projection is stupid. He could have just appeared at the needed time (raising the x wing from the water and flying to the fight) then maybe just force explode like a suicide bomber taking out the atat’s and letting the rebels flee the area. Becoming a martyr for the rebel cause. Anything but being a recluse blue milk drinking creature jacking off weirdo. Cherie dies better in cannon saving his race and taking a moon blast to save them. Luke deserved better. If he was going to die from it have him fight not play fighting.

snoke no back story? Just a manipulative old bastard . No force sucking regeneration powers. Just running around like Hugh hefner in a robe looking well like Hugh in the end years. Good storyline and buildup for nothing at all. O payoff. Total waist of time in last movie and this movie. When did the knights of ren take over the universe from one planet or so destroyed?

The whole stupid Finn/rose story the casino the horse racing the hacker. They should have just cut that and given the time to snoke or Luke/Rey training time. I found those cut always to the fin story worthless to the plot. Fin woke up like “where dat white woman rey at.” Only to be head over heals with another in 8 hours. Would have turned out better if the ATAT’s had just **** them after the crash like they should have in battle. How did they get back inside the base? They were feet away from the attackers. Stupid writing again.

The slow chase. Ok could the imperials just not have sent a ship into hyperspace and then back in front of the rebel ships?.

Adm. akbar did not even say “it’s a trap” when the brigade scene was going. It was a trap when they came out of hyper drive. Did the writers never see the other films.

don’t get me started with this film being a new Mary Poppins remake. Utterly stupid. Having her killed by her sons attackers even with kylo not being able to take the **** makes sense.

I am grilling porgs for sure during the football games Sunday. Beer can porgs I believe.

Capt phasma has a rifle yet has yet has to hand to hand it with fin. Her desertion soldier his commanding officer. Once again a character waisted and storyline gone. Worse than the FET’s parts. F’ing just shoot them with a blaster before BB8 kicks your backside with an ATST.

Now as a a movie I was entertained but Star Wars is just to much history to make into average SCfi by poor directors writers and overall lack of direction.

Maybe they will will do a “lost”’ version of this and what I saw was just a dream and nine starts on the island again all over.
Only jar jar has been worse.
Rant over.

 

[fullmetaljesus]

That was one of my MAJOR issues with this film. Jedi aren't immortal (Leia ain't even a Jedi). You can take one down with a blaster.... well you used to. Now you put two missiles up their #@$, take away their oxygen, then freeze them.... they have the potential to "wake up" and then Mary Poppins float to safety. The characters in this movies are ridiculously overpowered.

There was a video game (knights of the old republic) that showed Jedi had all sorts of fancy tricks so surviving space isn't too far of a stretch. Also I believe in the clone wars a Jedi survived space.

 

[printcraft]

Ok sooooo. Rey comes from “nowhere”. No connection to Palpatine Vader Obi-Wan Luke ..... the force visions she had in episode 7 meant absolutely jack **** given the events of episode 8.

Why did she see Kylo stab one of his own men? It obviously wasn’t supposed to be her seeing it or apparently having anything to do with her origins. Snoke too. Who the hell is that supposed to be?

 

[rhino]

Don't even get me started on what they did to Admiral Ackbar. HIis caracter deserved so much more than just "Oh, by the way he died"

Let me guess . . . IT WAS A TRAP?!?

 

[Double T]

Ok sooooo. Rey comes from “nowhere”. No connection to Palpatine Vader Obi-Wan Luke ..... the force visions she had in episode 7 meant absolutely jack **** given the events of episode 8.

Why did she see Kylo stab one of his own men? It obviously wasn’t supposed to be her seeing it or apparently having anything to do with her origins. Snoke too. Who the hell is that supposed to be?

I was disappointed that everyone cheered when Kylo killed Snoke. They must not understand that for the pupil to become the Sith Lord they have to kill the master. Also, I believe Kylo was lying, and I believe Ray to be a palpatine descendant or descendent of another powerful force user.

There were a lot of great tie ins to the Knights of the Old Republic games. I am Darth Revan anyone?

 

[slowG]

As a star wars fan .. im not going to say disappointed... but waiting some 730 days .. i was hoping to see luke and rey have more interaction. It was portrayed in the trailer , see that through! Luke vanishing thats great but .. lets make this movie have something memorable.. he and kylo should have had an epic battle... neither dies then... luke can vanish later. Give the fans that waited so long something to talk about! Very safe movie .. the best battle was with Fin and the damn silver storm trooper.. sad.

 

[printcraft]

Ackbar should have been the one to make the light speed attack, maybe Leia.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Like when Yoda send obi wan off to tatooine to study. I think the whole disintegration, becoming one with the force is what he was learning.

And Luke didn't go through the back door, he just appeared.

Exactly. Yoda tells Kenobi that he had been contact by Qui Gon-Jin, and he seemed surprised. For Yoda's age, you would think if Force Projection was commonly understood amongst Jedi,it wouldn't have been a big deal.

 

[Ericpwp]

I took it as something Qui-Gon had figured out, and brought to Yoda, as if it was some kind of new light side revelation. Like a light side version of the tragedy of Darth Plagueis.

 

[Kutnupe14]

There's absolutely no payoff moment in this film.
Another thing that bothers me is the way Luke Skywalker, a legendary movie character, is portrayed. This is the guy who went on a suicide mission to confront the 2nd most evil guy in the galaxy because he senses there's still a "little good" in him, because he's family.... but now, he's ready to kill the his nephew, the only child of his sister and best friend, because he sees some of the dark side in him? WTFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!

 

[femurphy77]

Yes with pub fries.

Did you know that adding a simple "e" to the end of one word changes the whole "flavor" of that statement?

 

[churchmouse]

Did you know that adding a simple "e" to the end of one word changes the whole "flavor" of that statement?

I would say "Only you" my friend but "You" are not the only one I am sure of it.

HHhhmmmmm.....new restaurant chain.........concept based.

 

[churchmouse]

Good movie but not my Star Wars. Poor writing poor hand off from director to director. To Disney ish. Not dark enough. To much cutting a good heavy screen into a joke of some kind. Poor flow if the director was a DJ he would Ben mixing AC/DC with disco.

Rant on:
Luke Astro projection is stupid. He could have just appeared at the needed time (raising the x wing from the water and flying to the fight) then maybe just force explode like a suicide bomber taking out the atat’s and letting the rebels flee the area. Becoming a martyr for the rebel cause. Anything but being a recluse blue milk drinking creature jacking off weirdo. Cherie dies better in cannon saving his race and taking a moon blast to save them. Luke deserved better. If he was going to die from it have him fight not play fighting.

snoke no back story? Just a manipulative old bastard . No force sucking regeneration powers. Just running around like Hugh hefner in a robe looking well like Hugh in the end years. Good storyline and buildup for nothing at all. O payoff. Total waist of time in last movie and this movie. When did the knights of ren take over the universe from one planet or so destroyed?

The whole stupid Finn/rose story the casino the horse racing the hacker. They should have just cut that and given the time to snoke or Luke/Rey training time. I found those cut always to the fin story worthless to the plot. Fin woke up like “where dat white woman rey at.” Only to be head over heals with another in 8 hours. Would have turned out better if the ATAT’s had just **** them after the crash like they should have in battle. How did they get back inside the base? They were feet away from the attackers. Stupid writing again.

The slow chase. Ok could the imperials just not have sent a ship into hyperspace and then back in front of the rebel ships?.

Adm. akbar did not even say “it’s a trap” when the brigade scene was going. It was a trap when they came out of hyper drive. Did the writers never see the other films.

don’t get me started with this film being a new Mary Poppins remake. Utterly stupid. Having her killed by her sons attackers even with kylo not being able to take the **** makes sense.

I am grilling porgs for sure during the football games Sunday. Beer can porgs I believe.

Capt phasma has a rifle yet has yet has to hand to hand it with fin. Her desertion soldier his commanding officer. Once again a character waisted and storyline gone. Worse than the FET’s parts. F’ing just shoot them with a blaster before BB8 kicks your backside with an ATST.

Now as a a movie I was entertained but Star Wars is just to much history to make into average SCfi by poor directors writers and overall lack of direction.

Maybe they will will do a “lost”’ version of this and what I saw was just a dream and nine starts on the island again all over.
Only jar jar has been worse.
Rant over.

Well I am glad you enjoyed it.

 

[snapping turtle]

Well I am glad you enjoyed it.

i did enjoy the movie. Even if I ***** about what It became.
I just saw so much promise of the story line eliminated over all for Star Wars.

 

[femurphy77]

A lot of excellent points have been brought up in this discussion; who was Snoke, why bother with Phasma just to off her like that, what are the origins of the First Order. Things like that and remember I'm talking as someone who has only seen the big screen version so I don't have the benefit of any of the filler stories from various other sources.

Honestly I still expect to see Snoke "pull himself together" I mean HELL! If Leia can survive the percussive forces that occurred when the bridge was torn apart then being sucked into the cold vacuum of space and surviving that why can't Snoke play "worm guy" and survive the attack? Which brings a better question; how did he not see that he was Kylo's target and not Rae?

I don't have a problem with Ren's existence or lack of story, yet! The movie ended with some unknown presumably orphan child using the force to sweep stables so that tells me that there are "Rens" seeded all throughout the galaxy.

And it's always entertaining how the lowly mechanic, farmhand, garbage man can jump into any high tech whatever and instantly become an ace!

The Dreadnaught took one HELL of a hit and I'm guessing was knocked out of the battle but I'm sure could be saved so calling it a POS is doing it a disservice. Unless they were unable to correct its flight attitude prior to impacting a planet or moon I see it as salvaged and refitted.

The Porg's only added comedic value with the big puppy dog eyes but that did show them to be very intelligent creatures. That one was for the kiddies and nothing else.

 

[churchmouse]

i did enjoy the movie. Even if I ***** about what I became.
I just saw so much promise of the story line eliminated over all for Star Wars.

It is pretty much the way of things when these story lines change hands. Not sure where it would be with Lucas still at the helm but this wore him down and cost his home life over the course of him developing all of the CG we now experience and enjoy.

 

[Woobie]

Frankly, Lucas gave us Jar Jar and wrecked the original trilogy when they were re-released on Blu-Ray. JJ Abrams gave us A New, I mean, Force Awakens. So I am pretty happy with Rian Johnson right now.