Lessons learned from the Zimmerman trial.

[StreetStrip01]

Learn to read cursive, and enunciate.

 

[cobber]

I have learned (or verified my suspicions) that the system can be easily manipulated by outside sources to push an agenda. The system is tarnished/cracked and almost broken. The sheeple are on board for anything the talking heads (news "Readers) have to say. The riots are not with any real purpose but to cause a disruption in the lives of those who work every day and make the system function/. Most of those in the streets have no clue how this all works.

As to why does "T"s criminal record have any merit in this, it goes to who he was.

I'm not sure the sheeple are on board, but they're certainly not making their own opinions known. I think we have a very vocal minority with connections to the media and the ruling class (all inter-related by the way) that is not representative of the majority. So I would endorse Nixon's concept of a silent majority.

They had damn well better start being heard, though...

 

[OkieGirl]

I learned that everyone has an agenda, and it rarely if ever is for the greater good.

I learned that there are no easy answers and we will never know the truth.

I learned we have not come as far as we had hoped, and that there is a lot of work to be done in the days and weeks ahead.

I learned that self defense is not a defense in the eyes of the masses and that your split second decisions (whether wrong or right) will be dissected and judged by those who have never been in your shoes.

I learned that what I do and say today can and will be used against me in the court of public opinion.

I've learned that ignorance is not just bliss, it is contagious...

 

[richardraw316]

I have learned to carry at all times. to many times i leave my home unarmed, cause i cant really hide the pistol i have.
its time for me to get a pocket pistol. any suggestions?
please pm, as to not thread jack.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

The way to win a fight is to walk away before it starts.

 

[HoughMade]

The way to win a fight is to walk away before it starts.

To add to that: sometimes people bring guns to a fistfight. Don't start a fistfight.

 

[printcraft]

The way to win a fight is to walk away before it starts.

Sometimes, even when you walk away...... trouble follows.
And then assaults you........ and jumps on top of you..... then trouble beats your head against a sidewalk.

I guess you can crawl away........... maybe.......... if you wake up.......... I hear coma's are nice this time of year.

At least you're probably not technically dead..... I bet a nice coma is relaxing.... no work... someone gives you a sponge bath..... sounds neat.

 

[pwoller]

Sometimes, even when you walk away...... trouble follows.
And then assaults you........ and jumps on top of you..... then trouble beats your head against a sidewalk.

I guess you can crawl away........... maybe.......... if you wake up.......... I hear coma's are nice this time of year.

At least you're probably not technically dead..... I bet a nice coma is relaxing.... no work... someone gives you a sponge bath..... sounds neat.

Nice I want to steal this and send it to all my stupid libtard friends. They like to say wouldn't it be nice if Z gave M a ride home that night.

 

[The Bubba Effect]

Sometimes, even when you walk away...... trouble follows.
And then assaults you........ and jumps on top of you..... then trouble beats your head against a sidewalk.

I guess you can crawl away........... maybe.......... if you wake up.......... I hear coma's are nice this time of year.

At least you're probably not technically dead..... I bet a nice coma is relaxing.... no work... someone gives you a sponge bath..... sounds neat.

You can't avoid all violent encounters, but you can avoid most of them. Call me a pollyana, but I have found that the best way to stay out of **** is to not start ****. The second best way is to let it go when another party desperately wants to start **** and attempts to goad me into escalation. I carry, I am willing to defend with deadly force, but if I have to use violence I have already screwed things up. I have walked away from plenty of great opportunities to ruin my life.

Shooting a teenager to death and being found not guilty is better than being beaten to death (or comatized), but not near as good as going home without participating in a life or death situation.

I don't see Z as a great hero or villain. He's a cautionary tale.

 

[revance]

Sorry to continue the threadjack, but 2 reasons I see that T's criminal history and social media history are of such importance:

1 - The big unknown in this story is who initiated the physical aggression. T's self proclaimed enjoyment and glorification of fighting definitely back up Z's claims.

2 - Disparity of force. It doesn't just mean who is the biggest. T obviously had more experience fighting and thus is probably much better at it than Z.

Back to the original topic... what did I learn?

That the general public seems to feel that questioning someone because you think they look suspicious (at least if they are black) is a heinous enough offense that physically assaulting the person is completely justified. People don't care if his story is true because they blame him regardless.

 

[Prometheus]

You can't avoid all violent encounters, but you can avoid most of them. Call me a pollyana, but I have found that the best way to stay out of **** is to not start ****. The second best way is to let it go when another party desperately wants to start **** and attempts to goad me into escalation. I carry, I am willing to defend with deadly force, but if I have to use violence I have already screwed things up. I have walked away from plenty of great opportunities to ruin my life.

Good for you for not letting someone goad you but do realize you can't walk away from every situation? If you could, you wouldn't need the gun.

Shooting a teenager to death and being found not guilty is better than being beaten to death (or comatized), but not near as good as going home without participating in a life or death situation.

That is completely inflammatory. I'd expect from Piers Morgan not from an INGO member.

I don't see Z as a great hero or villain. He's a cautionary tale.

Anyone who would sucker punch another person, jump on them and smash their skull into concrete is dangerous psychopath. His actions that night likely saved some future victims life.

I'd say Zimmerman was a good man, trying to do the right thing. Nothing more and nothing less.

If he has to put into any category it would be in the hero column, simply because he stopped a violent psychopath and probably saved someones life down the road that night.

 

[churchmouse]

I'm not sure the sheeple are on board, but they're certainly not making their own opinions known. I think we have a very vocal minority with connections to the media and the ruling class (all inter-related by the way) that is not representative of the majority. So I would endorse Nixon's concept of a silent majority.

They had damn well better start being heard, though...

Yes, also true but the sheeple I speak of are running amok in the streets for no real reason other than they can. And they Vote.........freaking sccary.

 

[Knight Rider]

Stupid things happen to stupid people and the best way to stay out of trouble is to stay out of trouble. It works no matter on which side you fall.

 

[88E30M50]

From Z's perspective:
He assumed he was following a teenaged petty thief that posed no physical threat. He was wrong.
He assumed that when TM went out of site, he was gone and the encounter was over. Wrong again.
When TM surprised him from behind, he did not immediatelygo on the defensive and beat feet.

From TM's perspective:
He assumed he was being followed by an easy opponent. He was not facing another street fight
He let his ego and emotions rule his actions. It got him killed.
He did not call 911. Instead, he tried to handle the situation himself.
He initiated a fight that did not need to happen and escalated it to deadly force.
He approached this as just another street fight.

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

I learned that we all believe what we want to believe. We're very well equipped to pick and choose little tidbits of apparent proof that support a preconceived idea. But not as well equipped to look objectively at the entire body of information and come to a logical conclusion that is based only on the facts.

We all formed an opinion of Zimmerman's guilt or innocence when we first heard about the incident. Very darn few ended up changing their minds after they learned more of the facts.

 

[LP1]

AFAIK, the fact that a bottle can be used as a weapon, and the fact that darkness makes it difficult to know what is in the person's hands, were never brought up. It seems very relevant to me - if a stranger appoaches me with anything in their hand that looks like it could be a hard object, I would immediately adopt a defensive mindset.

 

[grogie]

Not that I learned this, but it's reaffirmed to me that the majority of our society prefers to coddle criminals. We live in a fallen world, so I'm not surprised by it, rather I'm sadden for it.

 

[IndyDave1776]

It definitely reinforces the notion that there are people among us who would prefer Idi Amin over Mother Teresa strictly on account of race.

 

[churchmouse]

Not that I learned this, but it's reaffirmed to me that the majority of our society prefers to coddle criminals. We live in a fallen world, so I'm not surprised by it, rather I'm sadden for it.

Hollywood makes hero's of villains.

 

[brentlh]

I learned that the age old adage is true. Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6. In this case it was judged by 6 but that just doesn't sound good.