Long range target rifle?

[rugernut65]

well cost wise 223 is the caliber, i shoot coyotes at 500 plus with 223,22-250, 243,25-06 and my favorite 22 long rang is the 220 swift a simmons or tasco 6x20x 50 scope would be ideal for you ive hunted hogs in texas at 600 yds with the 25-06 effectively but to punch targets id use a 223 . T love my Ruger markII varmet -target rifles most, ive got 5 and all shoot less than an inch at 200yds . Whatever you purchase enjoy and be safe

 

[sgreen3]

Thanks rugernut, I guess im goin to have to lookinto a rifle chambered in .223

 

[RichardR]

I really wouldn't advise choosing a rifle chambered in .223/5.56 for 500 yard + shooting.

Even with the heavier grained bullets (69gr+) they are much more susceptible to being pushed around by shifting winds than a 168gr from a .308 is.

Yes they are much less expensive to buy or reload ammunition for than a .308 is, but out past 300yds the wind can & does, really push them around.

 

[Yeah]

I really wouldn't advise choosing a rifle chambered in .223/5.56 for 500 yard + shooting.

Even with the heavier grained bullets (69gr+) they are much more susceptible to being pushed around by shifting winds than a 168gr from a .308 is.

I'd advise it for someone who handloads, as the 75 Amax can dazzle. Especially if you know a smith with a 223AI reamer.

For someone who doesn't 308 is a nice crutch because there are so many amo options. 155 Scenars if you need to fool the wind, for instance.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Richard, have you checked this comment by IGW or rimfire yet?

no need to, thats good advice. If the OP would state a budget or some similar information that would help narrow it down even further. Most people who are unfamiliar w/ the finer aspects of distance shooting typically put themselves on a budget. thats why i reccomend .223. and you can learn way more about shooting in the wind (therefore making you a better LR shooter) w/ a .223 at 500 than a .308. that said, if the OP didnt care about cost of ammo, the .308 or similar cartridges are a VERY good route to go also.

 

[Yeah]

Are you under the impression a guy can't buy a suitable modern bolt rifle and a scope that will give him a taste of long range shooting, on a $500 budget?

You surplus mouser guys crack me up. I await your rise to dominance in any rifle discipline that doesn't obligate surplus sticks.

 

[sgreen3]

no need to, thats good advice. If the OP would state a budget or some similar information that would help narrow it down even further. Most people who are unfamiliar w/ the finer aspects of distance shooting typically put themselves on a budget. thats why i reccomend .223. and you can learn way more about shooting in the wind (therefore making you a better LR shooter) w/ a .223 at 500 than a .308. that said, if the OP didnt care about cost of ammo, the .308 or similar cartridges are a VERY good route to go also.

Posted in previous post, would like to stay under 500 if at all posible

 

[Yeah]

Posted in previous post, would like to stay under 500 if at all posible

I haven't looked in a month but I'm confident there are a dozen or more rifles that would fit the mold for sale here, none of which will be a surplus mouser.

 

[oldschoolmuscle]

Maybe some of you guys can offer the op to come shoot some. just to get some scope time to see if one he wants to get into this sort of shooting... and two maybe different weapon platforms. As he has several options....

 

[esrice]

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[shibumiseeker]

No im not a reloader. I would look into anything really. I dont have alot of experiance with a long range rifle. I have been told i should spend most of my budget on a quality scope though( dont know if this is true). But all input is appreciated fellas. You all obveously know more on this topic than I do. And my brother is an ass and wont tell me much as far as rifles go. He just says I have to find one that feel right for me. Dont really know what feels right never had a long range rifle. I guess the best rifle I have is either my savage .22WMR or my SKS Yugo. An I dought either one of those is a 500 yard gun.

Friend, I have a 100 yard range and bolt action rifles in .223, .22-250, .243, .308, and .50bmg. Several different models and scopes from inexpensive to very high $$$. If you want to come over (about an hour from Scottsburg, west of Bedford) you can shoot them if you provide the ammo and I can keep the brass. Shoot me a PM if you want to do this.

 

[randyb]

Basically you need to decide if you want short or long actions. I really like the savages. Caliber wise in short action the .308 based cartridges (.243, .308 and .260) would be good choices. In long action the .30-06 based , (.270, .25-06 and 30-06) would be good. My pick for long distance would be the .270 WSM cause i don't have one :-) The 7mm rem mag is also a good choice. For light weight long shots the .223, the .22-250 and .204 Ruger would be options as well.

 

[sgreen3]

Seems like this is going to be a harder decision than I thought, Kind of tore maybe. The .223 seems to be in the running. What do you guys think about .25-06? Also like to have something thats not going to beat my shoulder to deth, Im a skinny guy so after about 4 shots from a 12ga im done,lol

 

[rimfire_crazed]

.25-06 is a fantastic round - but it's not something you could affordably shoot for fun unless you reload. Your shoulder won't feel a .223 and any average framed man can handle .308 recoil. May take a bit of practice to learn how to shoot it, but you can start with reduced recoil loads if you're really sensitive.

 

[IndyGunworks]

Seems like this is going to be a harder decision than I thought, Kind of tore maybe. The .223 seems to be in the running. What do you guys think about .25-06? Also like to have something thats not going to beat my shoulder to deth, Im a skinny guy so after about 4 shots from a 12ga im done,lol

not a bad round, but not many match grade loaded ammunition available over the counter. if you are not reloading i would stick to .223 or .308

if you have the ability to load the options are endless, i become partial to the 260 or even 260-06 both have some terrific offerings in match bullet designs that would dominate over the .308.

for that matter you could even look at 6.5x284 and have a great round albeit short barrel life.

 

[sgreen3]

.25-06 is a fantastic round - but it's not something you could affordably shoot for fun unless you reload. Your shoulder won't feel a .223 and any average framed man can handle .308 recoil. May take a bit of practice to learn how to shoot it, but you can start with reduced recoil loads if you're really sensitive.

ah ur right they are kind of pricy, I guess u get better at anything with practice. guess its between the .223 an the .308 then. Im goin to try an get to the local shop this week and check a few out.

 

[shibumiseeker]

PM sent, Thanks

Replied, we'll see if we can work a day.

 

[RichardR]

Looks like I missed some hubbub, anyway sounds like you are in good hands Sgreen.

 

[CorvetteTom]

Mosin!


Edit: Oh wait... you don't like recoil.

 

[sgreen3]

My GF dad has a Mosin, Fun gun to shoot, just cant shoot it very much,lol