Looks like the bumpstock ban is about to become real

[T.Lex]

yeah. I am curious how they will "notify" owners of bump stocks though. Its not like anyone filled out any paperwork when buying one, at least that I'm aware of.

That's kinda what the publication is intended to do - put people on notice.

They will likely have a voluntary "turn it in now" period of time. They may also buy them back, but that'll get real expensive real quick. Plus, the industry - and owners - will probably file a lawsuit to prevent enforcement. The whole thing will be frozen until that gets resolved.

Which will be "perfect" timing for the next presidential election.

 

[dukeboy_318]

That's kinda what the publication is intended to do - put people on notice.

They will likely have a voluntary "turn it in now" period of time. They may also buy them back, but that'll get real expensive real quick. Plus, the industry - and owners - will probably file a lawsuit to prevent enforcement. The whole thing will be frozen until that gets resolved.

Which will be "perfect" timing for the next presidential election.

yep

 

[BigRed]

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[Hotrod29]

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I doubt it lol

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

That's kinda what the publication is intended to do - put people on notice.

They will likely have a voluntary "turn it in now" period of time. They may also buy them back, but that'll get real expensive real quick. Plus, the industry - and owners - will probably file a lawsuit to prevent enforcement. The whole thing will be frozen until that gets resolved.

Which will be "perfect" timing for the next presidential election.

Too bad it won't make any difference. This issue is something only people like me and maybe a plurality on INGO care about. In campaign mode, I could even see Trump touting it as a positive of his administration.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

I doubt it lol

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/02/02/bump-stock-massachusetts-ban/

Massachusetts only got 3 stocks and one trigger crank when they banned them at the state level. Almost no one is going to give them up.

 

[Hotrod29]

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2018/02/02/bump-stock-massachusetts-ban/

Massachusetts only got 3 stocks and one trigger crank when they banned them at the state level. Almost no one is going to give them up.

So they hide it in a closet? What's the point if you can't use it? Might as well have a brick of cocaine in your house. The prison sentence would be similar.

Not turning them in isn't non-compliance, taking it out and using it would be non-compliance.

 

[T.Lex]

In an update without much actual information, it looks like the DOJ/ATF publication in the Federal Register is set:
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/11/16/2018-24090/regulatory-agenda

This will start the inevitable litigation phase.

 

[BigRed]

So they hide it in a closet? What's the point if you can't use it? Might as well have a brick of cocaine in your house. The prison sentence would be similar.

Not turning them in isn't non-compliance, taking it out and using it would be non-compliance.

April 19, 1775

 

[T.Lex]

So... the ATF final rule is set to be published in December, making the ban "law."

I have an extreme aversion to the NRA as an entity, so I may have missed their table-banging over this power grab. Can someone direct me to it?

They've taken a strong position against this ban, haven't they?

They can't possibly still be supporting it, can they?

 

[Hotrod29]

April 19, 1775

On April 19, 1775 they didn't hide tuem or have a "boating accident"

We aren't half the men our founding fathers were so I expect we'll all just be hiding them

 

[lonehoosier]

On April 19, 1775 they didn't hide tuem or have a "boating accident"

We aren't half the men our founding fathers were so I expect we'll all just be hiding them

Didn’t they bury their cannons till it was time to use them?

 

[Hotrod29]

Didn’t they bury their cannons till it was time to use them?

When is it time to use them? How long will it take for confiscation to happen? You think it will be door to door? If that's what you're waiting for you'll be disappointed. Confiscation is already in full swing in various forms. Yet nobody has come to the aid of a gun owner during confiscation. Basically, nobody is going to do anything other than hand them in or hide them deep in a closet amd pray they never get caught. Then, when you die your pathetic zoomer children will either throw it away or call the authorities to collect it. What a legacy.

 

[worddoer]

So... the ATF final rule is set to be published in December, making the ban "law."

I have an extreme aversion to the NRA as an entity, so I may have missed their table-banging over this power grab. Can someone direct me to it?

They've taken a strong position against this ban, haven't they?

They can't possibly still be supporting it, can they?

Copied from post #2. Applies to your questions as well.

you are so silly...look at you.

Just ask many of the wise and all knowing NRA supporters here on INGO.

This cannot happen you know. Unpossible it is! The NRA has it all under control. They got our back. They are playing 3D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

And even though the NRA still has a statement to this very day on their website that "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations", nothing bad will happen. But I guess when you are playing 3D chess, that makes it opposite day. So to stop gun control, you need to support gun control. Right???

Link to the quote below, please reference the 7th sentence in the paragraph.

https://home.nra.org/joint-statement

I would like to know how that 3D chess is working for them. Seems to me they were honest about their intentions and we will soon see the results of those intentions.

 

[T.Lex]

Copied from post #2. Applies to your questions as well.

you are so silly...look at you.

Just ask many of the wise and all knowing NRA supporters here on INGO.

This cannot happen you know. Unpossible it is! The NRA has it all under control. They got our back. They are playing 3D chess while everyone else is playing checkers.

And even though the NRA still has a statement to this very day on their website that "The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations", nothing bad will happen. But I guess when you are playing 3D chess, that makes it opposite day. So to stop gun control, you need to support gun control. Right???

Link to the quote below, please reference the 7th sentence in the paragraph.

https://home.nra.org/joint-statement

I would like to know how that 3D chess is working for them. Seems to me they were honest about their intentions and we will soon see the results of those intentions.

Wait wait wait wait wait.

Wait.

Are you saying that the NRA/ILA hasn't said or done anything about this near-final federal restriction on a major firearms accessory?

I mean, I always thought my issue with them being a paper tiger that exists solely to make money for the cool kids was a quixotic exercise in futility. Now... well now... it almost seems like I may've been right all along!

 

[lonehoosier]

When is it time to use them? How long will it take for confiscation to happen? You think it will be door to door? If that's what you're waiting for you'll be disappointed. Confiscation is already in full swing in various forms. Yet nobody has come to the aid of a gun owner during confiscation. Basically, nobody is going to do anything other than hand them in or hide them deep in a closet amd pray they never get caught. Then, when you die your pathetic zoomer children will either throw it away or call the authorities to collect it. What a legacy.

Tread lightly sir. Words have meaning and consequences.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

I read it as a general sentiment, not personal.

 

[lonehoosier]

I read it as a general sentiment, not personal.

I did not. We’ll see if he doubles down.

I truly get this man’s frustration but that’s no way of going about it.

 

[T.Lex]

Do words that have no clear meaning really have any consequences?

Zoomer children - because they... go fast?

 

[HonkieKowboy]

Do words that have no clear meaning really have any consequences?

Zoomer children - because they... go fast?

Possibly a play on the term "boomer". And because millennials are said to have the attention span of a goldfish, and get bored of things quickly.