Major News Organizations Barred From White House Briefings???

The #1 community for Gun Owners in Indiana

Member Benefits:

  • Fewer Ads!
  • Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership
  • Discuss anti-gun legislation
  • Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section
  • Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses
  • Discover free outdoor shooting areas
  • View up to date on firearm-related events
  • Share photos & video with other members
  • ...and so much more!
  • oldpink

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Apr 7, 2009
    6,660
    63
    Farmland
    I'm sure that rabble rouser had it coming. He should've just wrote an article marveling about how purrfect the creases were in Obama's pants. He'd of been front row gaggle.

    Just as David Brooks did, an obedient little pet.
     

    SheepDog4Life

    Natural Gray Man
    Rating - 100%
    7   0   0
    May 14, 2016
    5,320
    113
    SW IN
    Interesting that what is missing from this discussion is the actual headline, and the MSM narrative, that Spicer BARRED certain news organisations from the briefing. For such a normally cynical crowd, it's been accepted at face value. IMO, it is patently false and requires "Animal Farm" style linguistic gymnastics to come anywhere close.

    Spicer invited the pool, with is the rotating list of 13 "representative" news organizations that is under the control of the White House Correspondent's Association. He ADDED three right-leaning organizations to that list, as well as, IIRC, ABC News and CBS News... this leads me to believe that his office would accommodate 18 news reporters (13+3+2).

    This FAKE NEWS protest is not about Spicer "barring" anyone, but a fight-to-the-death by the WHCA for control of who can be ADDED to press conferences.

    The established media is quite happy to freeze out new media from their monopoly on access to the WH press secretary:

    SeatingChart_d1.jpg


    Remember the ruffled feathers when Spicer didn't call on the first row first, and didn't take the majority of questions from the first 3-4 rows? It's the WHCA that controls the seating and wants to control what questions are asked... i.e. wants to control the narrative.
     

    flightsimmer

    Master
    Rating - 100%
    6   0   0
    Dec 27, 2008
    3,954
    149
    S.E. Indy
    All of this sounds very familiar.

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand".

    Divide and conquer.
    It is a tactic out of the Communist play book.
     

    T.Lex

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    15   0   0
    Mar 30, 2011
    25,859
    113
    .
    A primmer for the Trump administration.

    Some would say.

    To be clear, I am not saying that. Rather, it is both a compare/contrast and a reminder of what to look for - regardless of the administration.

    All of this sounds very familiar.

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand".

    Divide and conquer.
    It is a tactic out of the Communist play book.
    As your quote indicates, it goes back MUCH further than that. :D

    (Mark 3:25.) ;)
     

    SheepDog4Life

    Natural Gray Man
    Rating - 100%
    7   0   0
    May 14, 2016
    5,320
    113
    SW IN
    All of this sounds very familiar.

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand".

    Divide and conquer.
    It is a tactic out of the Communist play book.
    And refined to an art form by Alinsky. Expected from the radical left, but from the supposedly independent news media?

    Oh, wait, now days that is the same as the radical left!
     

    T.Lex

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    15   0   0
    Mar 30, 2011
    25,859
    113
    And refined to an art form by Alinsky. Expected from the radical left, but from the supposedly independent news media?

    Oh, wait, now days that is the same as the radical left!
    Did not Trump divide and conquer - just with different divisions?

    Arguably, he did it better, since he leveraged the electoral college formula to make the popular vote irrelevant.

    And - again to be clear - that's not a knock against Trump. He played smarter, since early in the primaries he had a clearer idea about how to win with different divisions.

    The divide and conquer strategy is a tool, not tied to an ideology.
     

    Timjoebillybob

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0
    Feb 27, 2009
    9,418
    149
    Actually it's not. The house he lives in is OURS. The job he has, is in service to US. Everything he has as a result of the office he holds belongs to the PEOPLE. It is a completely fair criticism.
    Yeah, it IS. It's the White House, not the White "no extended family" House. And throughout our history, there have been several people, not even related to the president that have lived there.....and yet, where were those complaints? The White House has 132 rooms, and 35 bedrooms. It is the president's prerogative to use the White House as his own personal residence, and invite, kick out, throw a party, or let live in it, whomever he wishes...or are you of the opinion that such isn't understood?

    Which is it?
     

    Timjoebillybob

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0
    Feb 27, 2009
    9,418
    149
    I responded in the thread where you originally trolled.

    No trolling. Honest question, is it his house where he can invite or dis invite who we wishes, or is it the people's house where we have say?

    Tim (generally sees it as your previous position)
     

    Kutnupe14

    Troll Emeritus
    Rating - 0%
    0   0   0
    Jan 13, 2011
    40,294
    149
    No trolling. Honest question, is it his house where he can invite or dis invite who we wishes, or is it the people's house where we have say?

    Tim (generally sees it as your previous position)

    The White House is both a private residence, AND a federal facility. The personal matters of the president, which are outside the function of govt, allow him such privacy and autonomy as any family in any residence. In matters where he using the WH as a platform for his administration and to push policy, he answers to US for its use. The public is fully entitled to ask questions concerning the use of the WH in governmental matters, but if it wants a detailed list a Baron's 11th birthday party attendees, that's beyond the pale.

    Kut (doesn't think it's a hard concept to understand)
     

    Timjoebillybob

    Grandmaster
    Rating - 100%
    1   0   0
    Feb 27, 2009
    9,418
    149
    The White House is both a private residence, AND a federal facility. The personal matters of the president, which are outside the function of govt, allow him such privacy and autonomy as any family in any residence. In matters where he using the WH as a platform for his administration and to push policy, he answers to US for its use. The public is fully entitled to ask questions concerning the use of the WH in governmental matters, but if it wants a detailed list a Baron's 11th birthday party attendees, that's beyond the pale.

    Kut (doesn't think it's a hard concept to understand)

    So if Trump happens to discuss policy at Baron's B-day party? I don't agree with him excluding news orgs (if he did), but think it is his right to do so. He still has freedom of association even if he is president.

    Tim (still sees hypocrisy)

    Indiucky can we get a ruling?
     
    Last edited:

    Bill of Rights

    Cogito, ergo porto.
    Site Supporter
    Rating - 100%
    7   0   0
    Apr 26, 2008
    18,096
    77
    Where's the bacon?
    Honest question here, no sarcasm, as I don't know the answer: how does it work when a church provides a rectory for its minister? What can s/he and can s/he not do there?

    I would think the home could not be sold or any permanent and possibly defacing changes made, but what about parties? (Yes, I expect that both hookers AND blow would be forbidden! Depending upon the church, alcohol might be similarly disallowed.)

    I'd guess that it would be defined as a home for his/her use, but not his/her property. So then, who says what is and is not allowed?

    Blessings,
    Bill
     
    Top Bottom