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[foszoe]

The grid here just barely made it through this summer as there is no margin built in any longer.

It would take a lot of gymnastics to make that statement true.

 

[Leo]

It would take a lot of gymnastics to make that statement true.

Indiana does not generate all the energy it needs on a regular basis. That is why there is extensive co-opting through out the region. If Wisconsin electric and the Byron and Braidwood nuclear electric plants were not in operation, Indiana would be in trouble at any peek demand, multiple times per year.

The Electric Power Supply association, epsa.org, has been tracking and reporting on the shrinking electric generating reserves due to EPA shutdown of coal pants since obummer was in office. Energynews network also has many articles about the same subject, not just in Indiana, but throughout the Midwest. By all accounts, the wind farms contribute very little to supply of power and are far from ever paying for themselves. Pickens states that electricity would have to sell for $100.00 a KWatt to make break even. Unless real change in government is done, the window where demand overtakes supply is no only probable but reality, just as it is on the West coast.

 

[foszoe]

Indiana does not generate all the energy it needs on a regular basis. That is why there is extensive co-opting through out the region. If Wisconsin electric and the Byron and Braidwood nuclear electric plants were not in operation, Indiana would be in trouble at any peek demand, multiple times per year.

The Electric Power Supply association, epsa.org, has been tracking and reporting on the shrinking electric generating reserves due to EPA shutdown of coal pants since obummer was in office. Energynews network also has many articles about the same subject, not just in Indiana, but throughout the Midwest. By all accounts, the wind farms contribute very little to supply of power and are far from ever paying for themselves. Pickens states that electricity would have to sell for $100.00 a KWatt to make break even. Unless real change in government is done, the window where demand overtakes supply is no only probable but reality, just as it is on the West coast.

The statement I responded to was historically based though most of your points are forward looking. In recent years, winter has stressed the grid much more than summer.

Your first paragraph is exactly why we have a grid.

The one statement you made that needs quantified is "contribute very little". What is your definition of little?

 

[foszoe]

Second one is PJM

 

[Leo]

8 percent sited by the industry is very little, especially with the huge negative return on investment.