New push for vehicle emission testing in Indiana.

[Timjoebillybob]

And many times they move to management.
One of my bosses was mad. His son went to get hired at the mill we work at. He didn't have the quals to become an employee. But he was hired as management. The boss thought that was F'd up.

Perhaps this should be in the sad but true thread. Although it's possible that it was the right decision. I've known a person or two that couldn't do the job, but were good supervisors. One was a supervisor at a casino, he had fingers like short fat sausages (made mine look like I should play piano) and couldn't handle the cheques on a craps table to save his life, but he knew the game in and out.

 

[russc2542]

There are people unsuited for their chosen profession in every profession?

Yep. And they usually have no idea.

And many times they move to management.
One of my bosses was mad. His son went to get hired at the mill we work at. He didn't have the quals to become an employee. But he was hired as management. The boss thought that was F'd up.

That's pure nepotism but brings up another route of failure: the Peter Principle. employees are promoted to the level of their incompetence. You do your job well, get promoted to do something else. when you stop doing well, you stop getting promoted and stay doing what you don't do well.

Perhaps this should be in the sad but true thread. Although it's possible that it was the right decision. I've known a person or two that couldn't do the job, but were good supervisors. One was a supervisor at a casino, he had fingers like short fat sausages (made mine look like I should play piano) and couldn't handle the cheques on a craps table to save his life, but he knew the game in and out.

There are people that are good at certain jobs and not at others. Not to take it to the extreme that they shouldn't branch out or seek to improve themselves, but despite what we were told as kids, not everyone can do whatever they want. It takes a certain kind of person to be a good manager. same for a teacher. same for an assembly-line worker. same for an artist or musician. I played in band most of my education until high school but it never clicked. I did it decently but didn't have a knack for it. I can appreciate it but I have a mind more suited to engineering and facts and logic, not the arts. My brother is the opposite: he writes music and can play more instruments than I can name. He does well enough with 'solid' stuff, he dabbled in programming in high school, makes a living, does his own taxes (which are a mess compared to mine with the gig work (1099s) and working for a non-profit) but he 'gets' the abstract artsy stuff where I 'get' the logical, factual stuff. and there's not one subjective measure that'll show it. Meanwhile my mother in law can't do either to save her life but set her in an assembly line and tell her what to do and she will past any reason without fail.

 

[BrettonJudy7]

I'm glad I found this thread. I have been writing press releases on Savannah's law for the past couple of months and I am curious as to what people think.

Currently, Senate Bill 100, Savannah's law, has passed the Senate with a unanimous vote. It passed out of the House committee on Roads and Transportation on Wednesday, with a 9-0 vote.

SB 100 does not make emission testing mandatory, but it makes it a voluntary program.

HOw does everyone feel about his?

 

[Areoflyer09]

What’s the point of voluntary testing? Who is going to volunteer to have this done? How much cost/time will this take from the fire departments?

Hope this does in the floor of the house or the Giv vetoes it for being pointless.

If have you have concerns about an exhaust leak, take your car to a qualified shop and have it checked. They at least can fix it as well.

 

[BrettonJudy7]

That's a valid point. I need to mention also, that my views may not reflect the views and opinions as the General Assembly. My views expressed are strictly that of a Hoosier.

What has been testified is that the test only takes 10 minutes, and the device to do so cost around $120. The point of the test is to see if your vehicle has a dangerous leak that would cause a health issue.
https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/sen-delph-savannah-s-law-passes-house-committee-9-0

Above is the latest news of the bill.

My opinion: I drove a 1997 Grand Marquis that had to have the catalytic converters taken off, but I still drove the vehicle for 6 years without problem. Sen. Mike Delph said in committee that he did not want this to be mandatory either. If there ends up being a voluntary program, I would probably never use it.

 

[HoughMade]

There's this cool voluntary program in place already called: "take your own car to a mechanic and have it checked." No government involvement or money necessary.

 

[Areoflyer09]

I see a value in having the system checked. I just don’t agree with this method choice.

If they find an issue during this test, you still have to take it to a shop to be located and fixed.

I also don’t agree with the reasoning behind Delph’s push for this. He’s pandering to a constituents family due to an unfortunate accident.

https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/senator-delph-authors-bill-for-voluntary-emissions-testing

 

[JettaKnight]

Here's how it should work - you drive up, stop in the painted box, turn on & off your head lamps, drive away.

You pass unless:

1. You headlamps suck (i.e. non-working, misaligned, blue, or you have you fog lights on & it's not foggy).
2. Your car is deafening from lack of a functional muffler.
3. You brakes grind terribly.
4. The a window is visqueen.
5. The car can't be seen through the generated smog.
6. Any part of your car is left in the box.

I'm sure this could be run entirely from volunteers. I'll be happy to take a shift to eliminate ****ty cars.

 

[BrettonJudy7]

I see a value in having the system checked. I just don’t agree with this method choice.

If they find an issue during this test, you still have to take it to a shop to be located and fixed.

I also don’t agree with the reasoning behind Delph’s push for this. He’s pandering to a constituents family due to an unfortunate accident.

https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/senator-delph-authors-bill-for-voluntary-emissions-testing

This is also an election year for Sen. Delph.
Savannah's Law: How a Free Test Could Save a Life | 93.1 WIBC

 

[BrettonJudy7]

Here's how it should work - you drive up, stop in the painted box, turn on & off your head lamps, drive away.

You pass unless:

1. You headlamps suck (i.e. non-working, misaligned, blue, or you have you fog lights on & it's not foggy).
2. Your car is deafening from lack of a functional muffler.
3. You brakes grind terribly.
4. The a window is visqueen.
5. The car can't be seen through the generated smog.
6. Any part of your car is left in the box.

I'm sure this could be run entirely from volunteers. I'll be happy to take a shift to eliminate ****ty cars.

Is this really how it happens? From the testimonies of Sen. Delph, and the Wayne Township fire chief, their test is a little different.

 

[Areoflyer09]

I think JettaKnight was just creating an entertaining way to eliminate some vehicles, in disrepair, from the road. I agree with most except the muffler part. My daily driver left the factory without a muffler.

 

[jamil]

Here's how it should work - you drive up, stop in the painted box, turn on & off your head lamps, drive away.

You pass unless:

1. You headlamps suck (i.e. non-working, misaligned, blue, or you have you fog lights on & it's not foggy).
2. Your car is deafening from lack of a functional muffler.
3. You brakes grind terribly.
4. The a window is visqueen.
5. The car can't be seen through the generated smog.
6. Any part of your car is left in the box.

I'm sure this could be run entirely from volunteers. I'll be happy to take a shift to eliminate ****ty cars.

Why do you hate poor people?

 

[BrettonJudy7]

I think JettaKnight was just creating an entertaining way to eliminate some vehicles, in disrepair, from the road. I agree with most except the muffler part. My daily driver left the factory without a muffler.

Ah! Man, I just cannot read peoples humor well... lol

 

[Brandon]

Im glad fog lights on durring a bright sunny day irritate people. Nope still wont turn mine off...

 

[JettaKnight]

Im glad fog lights on durring a bright sunny day irritate people. Nope still wont turn mine off...

This is why we can't have nice things. Because people are too idiotic to use fog lamps properly, it seems manufacturers have intentional made them feckless to avoid the problem.


Now they just serve as idiot indicators.

[video=youtube;D-wSRYbWJvU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-wSRYbWJvU[/video]

 

[JettaKnight]

Why do you hate poor people?

Why should poor people be allowed to endanger my life just because they don't have the will or means to maintain their vehicle?



I told someone, "Wow, that headlamp is really aimed bad."
"Yeah, that's how it was when I bought it. I should do something about it sometime."

She (and her husband) wasn't poor, just lazy.

 

[AmmoManAaron]

I see a value in having the system checked. I just don’t agree with this method choice.

If they find an issue during this test, you still have to take it to a shop to be located and fixed.

I also don’t agree with the reasoning behind Delph’s push for this. He’s pandering to a constituents family due to an unfortunate accident.

https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/senator-delph-authors-bill-for-voluntary-emissions-testing

^^^All of this, especially the part in bold^^^

 

[JettaKnight]

I see a value in having the system checked. I just don’t agree with this method choice.

If they find an issue during this test, you still have to take it to a shop to be located and fixed.

I also don’t agree with the reasoning behind Delph’s push for this. He’s pandering to a constituents family due to an unfortunate accident.

https://www.indianasenaterepublicans.com/senator-delph-authors-bill-for-voluntary-emissions-testing

Just read this... so, inflate govt. to provide another service that can be handled by capitalism? Nope. This isn't an autopsy or lighthouse, it's a true personal responsibility issue.


And what was she driving? As a former beetle owner, CO was par for the course in winter.

 

[BrettonJudy7]

Just read this... so, inflate govt. to provide another service that can be handled by capitalism? Nope. This isn't an autopsy or lighthouse, it's a true personal responsibility issue.


And what was she driving? As a former beetle owner, CO was par for the course in winter.

She was a passenger in a 2001 Nissan. Her boyfriend was driving, and they both passed out in the car while he was driving.

 

[actaeon277]

When I've traveled in areas with required check on cars conditions, I seem to notice that more people tend to drive around with car defects.
I think they seem to wait until the required check to change and aim lights, etc.