Obamacare: Say goodnight, Gracie...

[KG1]

If the Democrats currently running get their way the odds would be that you’ll most likely die waiting to get treatment.

 

[churchmouse]

Why should an employer HAVE to pay anything towards your healthcare?

He should not have to. If it is a negotiated part of your package then yes but to make them by law is wrong.

 

[JettaKnight]

Still leaves me several thousand short in “taxes”, I wonder, since it’s now unconstitutional, do I get my money back?

At least this year it will be much easier. I no longer have to fill in a bunch questions, demand to see 1095B/C... The time it takes me out fill out 1040's will go way down.

The only remaining question is, "Did you get healthcare insurance through the Marketplace?" No? moving on...

 

[bwframe]

Some of us know more than others what Obama's free healthcare has brought us.

It has proven the phrase that was uttered a lot while they were trying to railroad this in:

"If you think your healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's free..."

 

[jedi]

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/19/19-10011-CV0.pdf

"the individual mandate is unconstitutional because it can no longer be read as a tax, and there is no other constitutional provision that justifies this exercise of congressional power on the severability question, we remand to the district court to provide additional analysis of the provisions of the ACA as they currently exist."

So if it was unconstitutional what occurs to those people that were charged the "fee" on their taxes for failing to have health insurance. Can they get that "fee" back from the irs.

 

[chipbennett]

So if it was unconstitutional what occurs to those people that were charged the "fee" on their taxes for failing to have health insurance. Can they get that "fee" back from the irs.

It is only no longer a tax because it can no longer be collected (because the amount was reduced to $0 by Congress, IIRC). Since the amount is now $0, it doesn't constitute revenue, and fails even the most minimal standard to constitute a tax.

Prior to the amount being reduced, it (according to the courts) still constituted revenue, and therefore could be construed to be a tax.

 

[ArcadiaGP]

It is only no longer a tax because it can no longer be collected (because the amount was reduced to $0 by Congress, IIRC). Since the amount is now $0, it doesn't constitute revenue, and fails even the most minimal standard to constitute a tax.

Prior to the amount being reduced, it (according to the courts) still constituted revenue, and therefore could be construed to be a tax.

That makes it almost seem... clever? Like there are smart people in government that know sneaky ways to make big changes... like making the mandate unconstitutional just by lowering it to $0. Huh.

 

[JettaKnight]

So if it was unconstitutional what occurs to those people that were charged the "fee" on their taxes for failing to have health insurance. Can they get that "fee" back from the irs.

It was penalty.

Lots of penalties and taxes have come and gone without a single refund after the fact.

 

[Vigilant]

So if it was unconstitutional what occurs to those people that were charged the "fee" on their taxes for failing to have health insurance. Can they get that "fee" back from the irs.

Thats what I asked! I know it’s been said before, but anyone who wants free healthcare should go hang out at a VA Hospital or Clinic for a little while. Government run single payer at its finest.

 

[BugI02]

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/19/19-10011-CV0.pdf

"the individual mandate is unconstitutional because it can no longer be read as a tax, and there is no other constitutional provision that justifies this exercise of congressional power on the severability question, we remand to the district court to provide additional analysis of the provisions of the ACA as they currently exist."

Boom!

 

[BugI02]

At least this year it will be much easier. I no longer have to fill in a bunch questions, demand to see 1095B/C... The time it takes me out fill out 1040's will go way down.

The only remaining question is, "Did you get healthcare insurance through the Marketplace?" No? moving on...

With what you indicated previously about your customer base, I would think they would be more concerned about whether jihad expenses were deductible

 

[jedi]

Boom!

Still the damage was done already.

 

[JettaKnight]

With what you indicated previously about your customer base, I would think they would be more concerned about whether jihad expenses were deductible

Eh, most of their purchases are just old AKs, and gunpowder... far below the new std. deduction.

 

[KLB]

With our healthcare costs getting higher by the day, with fewer employers paying a lower percentage of their workers' premiums, and with the highest infant mortality rate in the Norhtern Hemishpere.

Don't get sick.

Dude. Where do you get that we have the highest infant mortality in the Northern Hemisphere? You're saying we are worse than North Korea, Mongolia, Russia, Ukraine...?

Costs have skyrocketed since this bill was passed. It has removed a lot of competition from the market, as large conglomerates run more and more of the industry. Drs have a hard time keeping up with all of the requirements and end up becoming employess of those conglomerates, who then try to squeeze every last dime out of their patients.

 

[DadSmith]

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