open carry stopped by hobart pd while pumping gas

[Andy219]

Another buddy of mine just had an experience in Hobart with disarming, vehicle search, and detainment after showing LTCH and DL. his experience just happened last week. I think we need to educate Hobart PD.

 

[AngryRooster]

So, what was your happy meal prize?

That I got to keep my gun I guess. I wonder if I had been injured/killed on the way home from an assault if my family could have sued since he kept my ammo? That would have been an interesting case.

 

[Rookie]

I think he should tell his story.

 

[AngryRooster]

Another buddy of mine just had an experience in Hobart with disarming, vehicle search, and detainment after showing LTCH and DL. his experience just happened last week. I think we need to educate Hobart PD.

Open carry event?

 

[Andy219]

I wouldn't rule that out. My buddy was actually concealing, but his shirt rode up and showed it. Then my buddy heard the click of the I latching or the holster behind him. Next thing he knew, 4 squad cars, 5 officers, some searching his vehicle, another running plates, another giving the third degree. He said it was crazy. He was having issues with his headlights. They were vibrating. He was pulled over for the head lights, then as he popped the hood to look with the officer, that's when he saw the gun and things went different. No neck stomping or anything, just vehicle search, and typical questions of where are you going, why do you have a gun, why do you have a rifle in your car, why do you have 200 rounds of ammo, are you planning world war three.

whys there another handgun in your center console. He said he was on the side of the road for over an hour, after the cop made him interlock his fingers behind his head and walk backwards to the cop, the. The PO took the gun out of the holster and unloaded it. The other cops unloaded everything out of his car, then after an hour. They told him he could go, but they were going to follow him home. So he had to put everything back in his car, and drive home with 4 squad cars following him. No citations or anything given.

 

[AngryRooster]

I wouldn't rule that out. My buddy was actually concealing, but his shirt rode up and showed it. Then my buddy heard the click of the I latching or the holster behind him. Next thing he knew, 4 squad cars, 5 officers, some searching his vehicle, another running plates, another giving the third degree. He said it was crazy. He was having issues with his headlights. They were vibrating. He was pulled over for the head lights, then as he popped the hood to look with the officer, that's when he saw the gun and things went different. No neck stomping or anything, just vehicle search, and typical questions of where are you going, why do you have a gun, why do you have a rifle in your car, why do you have 200 rounds of ammo, are you planning world war three.

whys there another handgun in your center console. He said he was on the side of the road for over an hour, after the cop made him interlock his fingers behind his head and walk backwards to the cop, the. The PO took the gun out of the holster and unloaded it. The other cops unloaded everything out of his car, then after an hour. They told him he could go, but they were going to follow him home. So he had to put everything back in his car, and drive home with 4 squad cars following him. No citations or anything given.

But I'm out shopping. I have to get groceries, buy some new shoes, I'm planning on getting something to eat, maybe catch a movie, possibly stop by the vets office for some pet medicine.....

You take stuff out of my car then I will watch you put it back where it came from, until that happens I won't be moving.

 

[Andy219]

He didn't know what to do. So he just went with the flow. As he told me the story I got angrier and angrier. Lol. I have home reading up on the laws, told him he's responsible for knowing his rights. When he as questions, even if I know the answer, I find the code, or the law or whatever and point him in that direction, then we go over it if he still has questions.

 

[357 Terms]

[QUOTEBut I'm out shopping. I have to get groceries, buy some new shoes, I'm planning on getting something to eat, maybe catch a movie, possibly stop by the vets office for some pet medicine.....[/QUOTE]

Lol, I would have called my friends and had them stand out by the road in front of their homes and jeer my "escorts" as I drove by.....really slow!

 

[AngryRooster]

"Hello, state police. I'm being followed by a bunch of cars. Everyone inside is wearing the same thing, I think they belong to some sort of group or gang. I saw guns in some of the car. Please help, I'm afraid for my life"

 

[Andy219]

^^^ lmao ^^^ classic.

 

[dusty88]

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Lesson learned, I do not notify or offer any additional information unless the gun is visible or I am lawfully asked. After that I started to study and learn what my rights actually are.

It is my understanding that, as of this year, the cop will know when he pulls you over. When they run the plates, they are able to see if the owner of the vehicle is a permit holder.

 

[AngryRooster]

It is my understanding that, as of this year, the cop will know when he pulls you over. When they run the plates, they are able to see if the owner of the vehicle is a permit holder.

All that happened to me as stated above was over 15 years ago. Now on the rare occasion I'm pulled over for something everything is recorded. Video via mounted phone until I can get a dash cam, audio on hidden voice recorder. Since I'm a HAM I even get the traffic of the call through a scanner.

 

[88GT]

It is my understanding that, as of this year, the cop will know when he pulls you over. When they run the plates, they are able to see if the owner of the vehicle is a permit holder.

There is a practical difference between being licensed and actually having one on one's person (or in one's vehicle.) Though I never leave the house without a firearm, Mr88GT does so more often than not.

 

[Mr. Habib]

If you're really that worried about the police knowing if you have a LTCH just by running your plate, the simple fix is to set up a trust with your vehicles inside it. The trust owns them and it can't have a Larry.

 

[actaeon277]

And the justification for the vehicle search would be the same as the gun confiscation??
It does look like we need an open carry event.

 

[AngryRooster]

If you're really that worried about the police knowing if you have a LTCH just by running your plate, the simple fix is to set up a trust with your vehicles inside it. The trust owns them and it can't have a Larry.

Myself, I don't care if they know or not when they pull me over. I hear everything they broadcast anyway. I don't like them telling everyone else with a scanner my personal business but that isn't going to stop so it doesn't matter. I don't do things that get me pulled over, the only time it happens is when someone is fishing for something.

 

[stephen87]

It is my understanding that, as of this year, the cop will know when he pulls you over. When they run the plates, they are able to see if the owner of the vehicle is a permit holder.

Negative. When they run your LICENSE it comes back with your LTCH. I made Frank a promise that everytime this popped up I would shoot it down. Unless it just changed recently, they cannot see it on your registration.

 

[dusty88]

If you're really that worried about the police knowing if you have a LTCH just by running your plate, the simple fix is to set up a trust with your vehicles inside it. The trust owns them and it can't have a Larry.

I just think it's a bad idea. Most cop-killers aren't going to be licensed, so why put the nervous cops on edge and perhaps cause THEM to bring up the gun issue which otherwise needn't have come up.

Negative. When they run your LICENSE it comes back with your LTCH. I made Frank a promise that everytime this popped up I would shoot it down. Unless it just changed recently, they cannot see it on your registration.

I was told that in May by a sheriff, (I think). I say "I think" because that is exactly what I remember him saying. But I could have misunderstood. That particular sheriff mentioned it because he said his previous advice was to tell people NOT to volunteer that they were carrying. His rationale was the kind of guy shown in the OPs video, that doesn't like citizens carrying arms.

If your information is newer than that, I apologize for misinformation. Perhaps he said "license" and I misunderstood. He did explain it as a change in protocol from the state. (is the LICENSE connection to LCTH new ?)

 

[KellyinAvon]

This thread has some legs. Right now I'm PISSED and ready to make the 143 mile drive if my fellow INGOers are up for an OC event*** oh I don't know, in front of city hall maybe? Using our 1st Amendment rights (peaceable assembly, redress grievances) to point out our 2nd Amendment and Indiana state rights are being infringed systemically by some tin-horns?
Name the time and place, I'll be there with my INGO shirt, NRA hat, and one or two of my Glocks. Maybe my GP100, I dunno, this pisses me off.

 

[dansgotguns]

Ive decided something needs to be done. Hobart needs to know this is unacceptable. Im going to put all my free time into this. Starting with an OC event. Andy larry and whoever lets get together and set something up.