+P in 45. worth it?

[BountyHunter]

Now keep in mind I know nothing about loads or re-loads, so keep it kind of simple.
First off do they make a +P in 45. and would it be worth it considering I shooting a Para WartHog with a 3 inch barrel?

Be gentle with me, please....

 

[redwingshooter]

I don't think it is necessary but I'm not an expert on ballistics. My opinion is that there are a lot of dead Germans, Japanese, Koreans, and Vietnamese that would suggest that the standard pressure 45 acp is lethal enough. Just my opinion though, not a ballistics expert as I said earlier.

 

[kwatters]

They make it: Hornady Manufacturing Company :: Ammunition :: Handgun :: Choose by Caliber :: 45 Auto +P :: 45 Auto+P 230 gr XTP®
Is it worth it? I would have to see testing in gel or real life scenario's to decide.
Looks like a 50 fps muzzle velocity gain and 89 ft. lbs of energy above the standard depending obviously on manufacturer.
With a 3" barrel it will probably just make a nice fireball and scare them to death!

 

[IndyGunworks]

no, all the ballistic testing i have seen done with my own eyes proved that there is no definative gain in going w/ +p or +p+ ammo in ANY pistol caliber.

a quality bullet far outways the minimal gain in speed.

 

[BDBHoover]

I carry Hornady +Ps but when I went to the range I couldn't tell the difference when firing FMJ and the +Ps...... I still carry them because I have them already loaded but once I go through them I highly doubt I will be purchasing anymore +P ammo....... The only reason I have them is because they were given to me when I purchased my G30

 

[BountyHunter]

Thanks.....

Great answers, I really appreciate the feed back, you guy's are the greatest......

 

[gunman41mag]

I don't think 50 FPS will kill that much better

 

[XtremeVel]

Now keep in mind I know nothing about loads or re-loads, so keep it kind of simple.
First off do they make a +P in 45. and would it be worth it considering I shooting a Para WartHog with a 3 inch barrel?

Be gentle with me, please....

I would think you would be much better off going with a line like Gold Dot and looking into one of their loadings made especially for a shorter barrel. Keep in mind that it will have a pretty large cavity, so make sure you verify it functions fine before relying on it.

 

[45lcrevolver]

IMO, I think any gain in speed and/or ft lbs is a good gain. I load my defensive carry with standard hp loads during summer since light clothing is usually worn so over penetration doesn't become an issue. During winter I carry with +p since there is heavy coats and sweaters that may become obstacles which those extra 89 ft lbs may adresss with proper penetration. ( also that's why the Russians developed the 7,62 x 25 tokarev, I think, to penetrate heavy coats, same principle, I read that somewhere correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[cbseniour]

45APC is about 1/2 ounce of lead in a fmj .45inches in diameter traveling at a relatively slow speed. It's kind of the question of would you rather be hit by a speeding Jaguar or a freight train going 35mph. You're just as dead anyway.

 

[XtremeVel]

IMO, I think any gain in speed and/or ft lbs is a good gain.)

True, but would a +P give him a gain in velocity in that 3 in barrel over a standard loading intended for that short barrel ? I don't know, but it would be interesting to run them both over a chrony...

I would surely think the load intended for his barrel length would give off much less muzzle flash and would be much more efficient.

 

[45lcrevolver]

Here is a good page on the test done with different barrel lengths using normal loads and +p loads.

.45 ACP Vel./Bbl Length

As you can see a 3 inch barrel isn't toO far behind from a 4inch barrel. Also it shows that a +p load gives more speed than normal loads even from a 3 inch barrel.

 

[NIFT]

The Winchester Ranger Talon .45 +P (RA45TP) outperforms the regular Ranger Talon .45 (RA45T) but only a little. Both exceed FBI terminal ballistic protocols. Source of information: Paul Nowak, Senior Technical Specialist, Olin-Winchester.

In general, +P ammunition underperforms compared to non +P equivalents. However, there are exceptions, and the Winchester Ranger Talon .45 +P is one of those exceptions. Whatever differences there may be are modest, at best.

 

[gunman41mag]

+P also means more recoil

 

[Jay]

Now keep in mind I know nothing about loads or re-loads, so keep it kind of simple.
First off do they make a +P in 45. and would it be worth it considering I shooting a Para WartHog with a 3 inch barrel?

If I were you, I'd put more effort into being able to put your rounds on target. Until your rounds hit your intended target, caliber, and +P, or +P+ won't be super obvious to a would-be assailant.

 

[Robert Richardson]

If I were you, I'd put more effort into being able to put your rounds on target. Until your rounds hit your intended target, caliber, and +P, or +P+ won't be super obvious to a would-be assailant.

If you can't get it done with a standard .45acp, a +P won't get it done either.

 

[ckcollins2003]

With a .45 you definitely don't need +P. The damage from a normal load is enough to stop whatever the threat may be with a single shot.

 

[hemicharger]

With a .45 you definitely don't need +P. The damage from a normal load is enough to stop whatever the threat may be with a single shot.

WOW I sure hope you are joking?

 

[ckcollins2003]

WOW I sure hope you are joking?

No joking at all. You ever seen what happens to a person when they get hit in the chest with a .45?

 

[hemicharger]

Yes. Quite a bit actually. Ive seen everything from bb to 30-06 GSW. A 45 is not a magic ray of death. Ive worked on pleanty of people who have been shot with a .45 and lived