Possible Federal Government shut-down

[Kutnupe14]

Who is Gobbels? Wasn't that a porn star?

Uhhh... it is an interesting name, but not pronounced exactly how it looks.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Are we talking about something different than what happened yesterday? Cause this seems nothing like what I remember.

Yes, what I'm talking about happened on the 9th.

 

[Trigger Time]

From Jan 9th


Those are the president's exact words, concerning a DACA/Immigration reform bill.

Why would he do something illegal? During the government shutdown I hope Trump gathers planes trains and automobiles and rounds up all the illegals including dreamers that he can and ships them off. Is Mexico gonna try and stop us from delivering them down the way they came through? Well get some off my 203 *****es.

Besides a wall, we need a mine field along the border.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I want that point made everwhere to everyone. It was so horrible for Republicans to shut the government down, but it’s just fine for them to do it.

I think a lot of people, depending on their politics, have plenty of points to make illustrating the hypocrisy of both parties; and the president's tweets from those times haven't disappeared either.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Why would he do something illegal? During the government shutdown I hope Trump gathers planes trains and automobiles and rounds up all the illegals including dreamers that he can and ships them off. I'd Mexico gonna try and stop us from delivering them down the way they came through? Well get some off my 203 *****es.

A congressional bill wouldn't be illegal.

 

[Trigger Time]

Let's just keep adjusting the law so that murder is legal while we are at it.
How about having a "purge" like the movie? I'm down if it's legal

 

[BigBoxaJunk]

Besides a wall, we need a mine field along the border.

I think we should stop having ballots for elections. Voters should have to write in the name of their choice for every office, including which office, which precinct, etc. If they can't remember who it is, or exactly which office, or if they can't spell the name correctly, their vote shouldn't count.

And You thought You were the radical.

When people want to criticize me for carrying a gun without having taken any gun training, I tell them that I'm just as annoyed that people are allowed to vote without first having to pass a Civics class.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Let's just keep adjusting the law so that murder is legal while we are at it.
How about having a "purge" like the movie? I'm down if it's legal

Hey, do you have Netflix? Check out a movie called Bushwick. It's a more realistic take on an idea of a purge, it's really good. Kinda of a downer, but IMO solid.

[video=youtube;cn7pZdg0aI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn7pZdg0aI4&feature=youtu.be[/video]

 

[rkwhyte2]

Hey, do you have Netflix? Check out a movie called Bushwick. It's a more realistic take on an idea of a purge, it's really good. Kinda of a downer, but IMO solid.

[video=youtube;cn7pZdg0aI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn7pZdg0aI4&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I watched this movie. Not bad but didn't end the way I thought it would.

 

[Kutnupe14]

I watched this movie. Not bad but didn't end the way I thought it would.

Yeah, I was surprised, too. I was making a point to TT about how I see that movie as being more similar to how a "purge" would go down, than like it does in the movies of that name.

 

[SnoopLoggyDog]

My gut feeling is that this "Shutdown" will be drawn out at least 10 days. The President gives his State of the Union address on 30 Jan. The purpose is to end Trump's first year in office on a down note. It is a risky gamble that could backfire on the Senate Dems.

 

[indiucky]

Hey, do you have Netflix? Check out a movie called Bushwick. It's a more realistic take on an idea of a purge, it's really good. Kinda of a downer, but IMO solid.

Thanks Kut...I was going to watch it but I heard it was kind of mocking Texan's so I didn't...Was that description overblown paranoia from my right wing movie reviewer???

 

[jamil]

I can't imagine any American over the age of forty who hasn't had that point hammered home many times over.

But, I'm over that, and I blame both sides. I blame them all the same, because for one, they are all equally involved and invested, and for for two, even if I did have a "side", I'd like to think I'd expect more from them than people seem to these days.

The sides seemed to have flipped priorities.

If you're a Republican it's okay to shut the government down for your causes, but it's evil if Democrats shut it down for theirs.

If you're a Democrat it's okay to shut the government down for your causes, but it's evil if Republicans shut it down for theirs.

If acceptability of shutting down the government is cause-dependent, that may be a sign you're an ideologue, or a hypocrite. Not necessarily. But maybe.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Thanks Kut...I was going to watch it but I heard it was kind of mocking Texan's so I didn't...Was that description overblown paranoia from my right wing movie reviewer???

No, there is definitely, a left-wing bias to the movie... but it is, at least, a pro-gun left-wing bias. It's most certainly pro-gun, and explains intelligently why.

 

[Woobie]

Yes, what I'm talking about happened on the 9th.

The words were on the 9th, but Schumer (and not McConnell) was at the WH yesterday. So both, really. And the thing is Republicans and Democrats did not bring him anything. Schumer met him yesterday with a list of demands congressional republicans had not agreed to. So what did he actually do that was counter to his statement on the 9th?

I am not a Trump fan at all, but I find myself constantly defending him against these kinds of arguments because they aren't really good examples of his failures. People are always looking at whatever bad thing is happening and switching some details around so they can hang it on him. And that happened to Obama as well. Neither one of these guys is a good president, Obama more so than Trump. But let's stick to the facts when we show why they suck.

 

[jamil]

Hey, do you have Netflix? Check out a movie called Bushwick. It's a more realistic take on an idea of a purge, it's really good. Kinda of a downer, but IMO solid.

[video=youtube;cn7pZdg0aI4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn7pZdg0aI4&feature=youtu.be[/video]

I quit watching after the 1st half-hour or so. Just too much eye-rolling, I thought maybe I'd go blind if I continued. I guess maybe I need to give it another chance.

 

[KittySlayer]

The president said that he would support ANY bipartisan deal that came to him. A bipartisan deal was made, presented to Trump, and he lied and rejected it. So now the Democrats aren't playing ball.

Is Trump still playing the Art of the Deal? I haven't seen him whip out the Veto pen to put the kibash on this supposed bipartisan bill sent to his desk by the legislators for signature. Remember they are all professional liars so saying they have reached a bipartisan deal doesn't mean doo doo until 60% of them hold up their hand and say Yes. Since most of the swamp dwellers (R&D) despise Trump they could really show the shutdown was Trump's fault by forcing him to veto their bipartisan bill. All we have now is the Democratic leadership giving a few red state senators in vulnerable states permission to break ranks on a bill that wasn't going to pass anyways. They're all still just playing politics.

 

[jamil]

No, there is definitely, a left-wing bias to the movie... but it is, at least, a pro-gun left-wing bias. It's most certainly pro-gun, and explains intelligently why.

As much as I saw of it, it seemed like it was portraying the "sane" progressives against the "insane" opposition.

So I'd say the bias is fairly strong, even though what I saw of it wasn't anti-gun, per se.

 

[Kutnupe14]

Is Trump still playing the Art of the Deal? I haven't seen him whip out the Veto pen to put the kibash on this supposed bipartisan bill sent to his desk by the legislators for signature. Remember they are all professional liars so saying they have reached a bipartisan deal doesn't mean doo doo until 60% of them hold up their hand and say Yes. Since most of the swamp dwellers (R&D) despise Trump they could really show the shutdown was Trump's fault by forcing him to veto their bipartisan bill. All we have now is the Democratic leadership giving a few red state senators in vulnerable states permission to break ranks on a bill that wasn't going to pass anyways. They're all still just playing politics.

Sure, not beyond the realm of possibility, but BOTH parties said the presented a deal, and the president rejected it. And then of course, the GOP said afterwards, they wish the president would give direction on what he wanted. If what they say is false, then in a rare illustration of restraint, the president did not push back on the idea.

 

[Kutnupe14]

As much as I saw of it, it seemed like it was portraying the "sane" progressives against the "insane" opposition.

So I'd say the bias is fairly strong, even though what I saw of it wasn't anti-gun, per se.

What? You sure you were watching the same movie, or did you just pick and choose when to bring bias into the movie?