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  • MCgrease08

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    Don't tell that to me, McGrease is the one making the comparison. I'm just trying to find out why. Thank you BTW.

    I'm simply looking for intellectual consistency. I tend to hold the opinion that politicians aren't necessarily responsible for their more extreme fringe supporters. But having members of a candidate's staff calling for violence against the opposition is problematic. If nothing else it speaks to Bernie's lack of awareness of the people he's hiring.

    If Trump had actual white nationalists or KKK members working for his reelection campaign then every mainstream media outlet would be calling for his resignation. But according to you, they are an organized group, so there is a difference somehow. I don't agree.

    At the risk of legitimizing your original question from the other thread, I will try and answer it directly. White nationalists and KKK members, as few in number as they are, likely support Trump because he doesn't advocate for open borders and un checked illegal immigration. Even though Trump has repeatedly denounced their racist views, his policy positions are more closely aligned with their beliefs than those of Democrat candidates. Of course, that in no way means that Trump holds the same abhorrent views they do, only that they are more directly opposed to policies of the Democrats.
     

    nonobaddog

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    If Trump had actual white nationalists or KKK members working for his reelection campaign then every mainstream media outlet would be calling for his resignation. But according to you, they are an organized group, so there is a difference somehow. I don't agree.

    At the risk of legitimizing your original question from the other thread, I will try and answer it directly. White nationalists and KKK members, as few in number as they are, likely support Trump because he doesn't advocate for open borders and un checked illegal immigration. Even though Trump has repeatedly denounced their racist views, his policy positions are more closely aligned with their beliefs than those of Democrat candidates. Of course, that in no way means that Trump holds the same abhorrent views they do, only that they are more directly opposed to policies of the Democrats.

    But the insinuation is a wonderful tool for those with low enough integrity to go that route.
     

    KG1

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    It's probably not quite true what Ben Shapiro keeps saying about Bernie, that he was kicked out of the commune (before his 40 year career doing absolutely nothing in public life) for not pulling his own weight. He has a very difficult time finding fault with communists or communism, as if there is no fault to find. He often praises them/it. I mean. Nothing wrong with a long bread line, after all. I kinda think it's fair to suspect he's a communist in his innards.

    The only time I've heard him defend a capitalist principle is when he's the one capitalizing.
    Like excoriating others when they criticize him for being wealthy by telling them not to be haters and go make money by writing their own books?
     

    HoughMade

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    I think the significant difference is that the case with the Bernie staffers involved individuals not organized groups. Surely you understand the difference. You can find “off” individuals, promoting violence, supporting any candidate.

    Sometimes the "off" individuals find each other and form groups. These groups have no more significance than the individuals did before they found each other until they become large enough to actually control something.
     

    Rick Mason

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    Sometimes the "off" individuals find each other and form groups. These groups have no more significance than the individuals did before they found each other until they become large enough to actually control something.

    Or the candidate invites them into positions of power and authority within the campaign/administration.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Sometimes the "off" individuals find each other and form groups. These groups have no more significance than the individuals did before they found each other until they become large enough to actually control something.

    History says otherwise. The individual, before finding the group, is a sole threat; wielding as much power as one wayward individual can. The group is far more dangerous.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    INGO needs a 'crayon' font option

    You act like a lot of members haven't already messed up their computers writing responses on the screen with crayon. I'd rather not be responsible for them needing to get yet another computer.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Or the candidate invites them into positions of power and authority within the campaign/administration.

    How exactly does a candidate invite these "off" people to join up? Your implication, it seems (and correct me if I'm wrong), is that the candidates know that "off" people are off, and actively, and personally, seek to recruit those persons. Granted I think you also said that the two guys caught in the "sting," were typical of Bernie supporters.
     

    Hatin Since 87

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    How exactly does a candidate invite these "off" people to join up? Your implication, it seems (and correct me if I'm wrong), is that the candidates know that "off" people are off, and actively, and personally, seek to recruit those persons. Granted I think you also said that the two guys caught in the "sting," were typical of Bernie supporters.
    See post 61.
     

    nonobaddog

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    There has to be some kind of interview/vetting/choice process going on, at least for the paying positions. I seriously doubt if they just grab random people coming out of McD's. So the staff in a campaign are people chosen by that campaign. They are getting what they are looking for.
     

    Leadeye

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    With all the hits Bernie has been taking lately, you have to wonder if there's a John Sasso/Lee Atwater/James Carville type of campaign strategist on one of his primary opponents team. Sounds like he's in somebody's sights.
     

    Leadeye

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    You wonder where all this was a month or so ago, somebody's decided to eliminate Bernie.
     

    BugI02

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    How exactly does a candidate invite these "off" people to join up? Your implication, it seems (and correct me if I'm wrong), is that the candidates know that "off" people are off, and actively, and personally, seek to recruit those persons. Granted I think you also said that the two guys caught in the "sting," were typical of Bernie supporters.

    Uhh, when you were talking out of the other side (because it was about Trump) it all flows from the candidate, via dogwhistles and code words; and that candidate attracts people to his organization of like mind. So, either that's true in Bernie's case and these are typical of the (communist) breed, or (more likely) Bernie isn't all in for an American Gulag and Trump isn't a racist or white nationalist
     
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