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[Usmccookie]

I will say that as an electrician, times are good. I have more work than I could possibly get to. Thanks to all those saying that trades are for losers, and that you have to get a college degree to be successfull. OP, sorry I'm not closer, I would be game for some side work. Also, this isn't work for non-pros. Seriously.

^^ I would love to help. But I'm a ways away. It's not a big job but things can go wrong very quickly. Videos and guides wont tell you the minute things that can make or break a job like this.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Yep... Gas furnace on 120vac via plug-in outlet on a dual gang box with 1 side as the power switch. That way you don't have to go back and forth to the panel. Turn off, un-plug, plug into genny.

 

[ghitch75]

this is pretty simple.....put in a 2 pole 30 amp breaker with the cord to the gen use 10 gauge wire.....when power goes out start gen shut the main breaker off and turn the 30 amp 2 pole on and then the breaker on the gen.....

you will have power to the whole house.....just don't run any larger 220v appliances....

then when power comes back on shut down in reverse order...

 

[Clay Pigeon]

this is pretty simple.....put in a 2 pole 30 amp breaker with the cord to the gen use 10 gauge wire.....when power goes out start gen shut the main breaker off and turn the 30 amp 2 pole on and then the breaker on the gen.....

you will have power to the whole house.....just don't run any larger 220v appliances....

then when power comes back on shut down in reverse order...

8,000 ÷ 120 = 66.6 amps.. I would install a 60 amp receptacle next to the breaker panel of near where the generator will sit. Make an extension cord thats at least rated for 60+ amps and put two male plugs on it.
When power fails turn off the main breaker ( the big one at the top of your breaker panel ) in your service panel and plug in the male male cord to the genney and the new receptacle and start your Genny. You will have power on both sides of your service panel and you have full use of what power your genny produces and you can just turn off the breakers for where you don't want elect to run..

VERY IMPORTANT....
Just be sure that when your electric is back on you unplug the male male plugs so you don't blow the breakers and or rectifers out of your genny.. when plugs are pulled you can flip the main breaker back on to restore power to your home..

 

[ghitch75]

8,000 ÷ 120 = 66.6 amps.. I would install a 60 amp receptacle next to the breaker panel of near where the generator will sit. Make an extension cord thats at least rated for 60+ amps and put two male plugs on it.
When power fails turn off the main breaker ( the big one at the top of your breaker panel ) in your service panel and plug in the male male cord to the genney and the new receptacle and start your Genny. You will have power on both sides of your service panel and you have full use of what power your genny produces and you can just turn off the breakers for where you don't want elect to run..

VERY IMPORTANT....
Just be sure that when your electric is back on you unplug the male male plugs so you don't blow the breakers and or rectifers out of your genny.. when plugs are pulled you can flip the main breaker back on to restore power to your home..

most of all gens to 10k only have 30amp twist locks and the breaker on the gen is 30 amp...

 

[Clay Pigeon]

most of all gens to 10k only have 30amp twist locks and the breaker on the gen is 30 amp...

Brain fart... A double pole 30 amp.. our blue one has a 50/60 amp receptacle for 220V

 

[Fargo]

I think the OP is wanting a lock out so as to not be able to accidentally backfeed the power grid/linesmen if he screws up the series of flipping switches/breakers.

 

[ghitch75]

I think the OP is wanting a lock out so as to not be able to accidentally backfeed the power grid/linesmen if he screws up the series of flipping switches/breakers.

unless you get a auto switch you will have to flip breakers....all lineman around here always put a ground jumper on....anyway it will only back feed for long enough for the 30 amp breaker to pop...

maybe 1 second...



https://blog.norwall.com/generator-information/portable-generator-manual-transfer-switch-basics/

 

[Clay Pigeon]

unless you get a auto switch you will have to flip breakers....all lineman around here always put a ground jumper on....anyway it will only back feed for long enough for the 30 amp breaker to pop...

maybe 1 second...


https://blog.norwall.com/generator-information/portable-generator-manual-transfer-switch-basics/

You might shock an attorney, but you aint gonna get a lineman. grounded is safe..

 

[Fargo]

unless you get a auto switch you will have to flip breakers....all lineman around here always put a ground jumper on....anyway it will only back feed for long enough for the 30 amp breaker to pop...

maybe 1 second...



https://blog.norwall.com/generator-information/portable-generator-manual-transfer-switch-basics/

Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t he specifically requesting the kit where it locks out the main when the backfed breaker is hot?

 

[ghitch75]

then a auto switch is what he wants......i was just showing it can be done a lot cheaper...

 

[Fargo]

You might shock an attorney, but you aint gonna get a lineman. grounded is safe..

Weird, here is a court case about a linesman who got killed doing it your way.

https://www.oshrc.gov/assets/1/6/Pike_Electric,_Inc.,_Docket_No._01-0166.txt


What does the NEC say about non-lockout back feeds?

 

[Fargo]

then a auto switch is what he wants......i was just showing it can be done a lot cheaper...

Why would he need an auto switch rather than a lock out?

 

[MRockwell]

Call Russell Pickett. He won't let you down. Mention my name. He's known my fam for 30 years.

Pickett heating, cooking and electric
Arcadia
317 984 5066.

What bocefus78 said. I have used him for electric and plumbing on some of my jobs, been pleased.

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Weird, here is a court case about a linesman who got killed doing it your way.

https://www.oshrc.gov/assets/1/6/Pike_Electric,_Inc.,_Docket_No._01-0166.txt

2005????
The Pikes lineman should have listened to what his boss said in the morning meeting about generators, That lineman is well trained on the hazards of working on service lines and the hazards of generators running. seems equipment he went to work on was hot and he didn't check.
Again, the only safe value of electricity when working is none and then grounded. If he would have followed his training he would be alive today.

 

[ghitch75]

Why would he need an auto switch rather than a lock out?

what do you mean by lock out?.....a key and lock lock out for disconnects?.....if that is the case you still have to manually do it....

 

[ghitch75]

2005????
The Pikes lineman should have listened to what his boss said in the morning meeting about generators, That lineman is well trained on the hazards of working on service lines and the hazards of generators running. seems equipment he went to work on was hot and he didn't check.
Again, the only safe value of electricity when working is none and then grounded. If he would have followed his training he would be alive today.

+1...

 

[churchmouse]

this is pretty simple.....put in a 2 pole 30 amp breaker with the cord to the gen use 10 gauge wire.....when power goes out start gen shut the main breaker off and turn the 30 amp 2 pole on and then the breaker on the gen.....

you will have power to the whole house.....just don't run any larger 220v appliances....

then when power comes back on shut down in reverse order...

This is how we do it. I shut off the high draw breakers because woman are not tuned up enough not to use something. If a man says no they absolutely have to test the statement. He could be lying you know.

Our goal is light, refrigerators and an operational furnace. If the gas feed is down we can use the blower to circulate the heat from the wood stove.

 

[woowoo2]

Make an extension cord thats at least rated for 60+ amps and put two male plugs on it.

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Deadman cord.
Nice.....

( Don't listen to this nonsense.)

 

[Fargo]

what do you mean by lock out?.....a key and lock lock out for disconnects?.....if that is the case you still have to manually do it....

No, it is a back fed breaker and bracket designed and listed for install in your particular panel which prevents the back fed breaker and the main from being able to both be hot at the same time. You still have to manually throw them, it just makes it so you can’t screw up the sequence and toast your generator or backfeed the grid.

If installed according to listing and rating, it is my understanding that these are generally code compliant.

That was what I read the OP to be asking about.