Republican Leadership Kills Constitutional Carry Again in 2018

[Woobie]

While I'm disappointed at this outcome, I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of Republican voters y'all think would favor "repealing" the requirement for a permit to carry a handgun? I'd be surprised if the concept got 50% support even among Indiana Republican voters. (And you can play semantics all you want, but repealing the requirement is essentially what you'd be doing).

This outcome sucks - but I disagree with those calling these legislators RINOs. Being "not Libertarian" doesn't make you a RINO. In this case, it simply makes you a Republican. These guys are most likely representing Republican voters' interests to a tee. Most "R" voters are straight-laced people who prefer an "orderly" society. (Sunday alcohol sales? Who needs it?). How many cops on INGO even support it? "Carl Weathers" already said he wouldn't. Others are silent on the issue.
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But regardless, we need to tune-up our understanding of what it means to be a Republican in Indiana. Up until relatively recently, most Indiana Republicans had been voting for Dick Lugar for years, and years, and years. Indiana is not a "Liberty" state. Indiana is a "significantly behind the rest of the country on social progressivism" state. It's not the same.
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Yeah, pretty much.

 

[KokomoDave]

Time to go. Term limits. Listen to your voters or get out you bunch of freeloading wang doodlers or it's Wang Chung tonight.

 

[GlockDoc]

What happens to reprocity if Indiana goes constitutional at some point?

 

[croy]

What happens to reprocity if Indiana goes constitutional at some point?

To carry out of state you would still need Indiana's LTCH.

 

[GodFearinGunTotin]

I said it else where but I'd vote "no" on this turd of a bill. This does not advance the ball. All it does is add bells and whistles that makes the current LTCH regime more palatable to more people. I'm of the belief that once people bought their lifetime LTCHs, there was no real impetus to go constitutional carry by most. They are done paying money and there's simply no advantage to them. Now that they're going to be free...sheesh, there'll never be a perceived need by even more folks. Then, the bit of a cherry on top of those opting for a "Brady Exempt" license so you can minimize the NICS infringement...fagetabouit. Add to all of this, as others have said above, the belief there's some inherent crime stopping, good guy vetting power of the pink card...I just can't see it happening for a long time.

Maybe it's time to stop wasting calories on this and see what we can do in other areas like removing carry restrictions as much as politically possible.

 

[ATM]

From another thread one year ago:

...Why didn't we turn Bosma's name into a pejorative the last time he didn't actually do his job? Why didn't we give him consequences for his choices?


i.e. "I wonder if he'll just Bosma the bill again?"


We have instant access to social media and all we use it for is chatter? How bland. String some folks up for the crowd, make some demands, become the media.

Nagging letters are not consequences.

 

[jgressley2003]

Figures.

Funny how fast government can pass a law when it has to do with creating new taxes.

That’s because taxes benefit them and cover their mismanagement of money.

 

[IndyDave1776]

From another thread one year ago:




Nagging letters are not consequences.

Very true. Maybe a D majority for a term would get the point across.

 

[Trigger Time]

*******s... It’s time for NRA to give them “F” ratings and time for We The People to OUST them. Let’s get on this, starting NOW. I’m ready, what can I do to help?

LET’S GET ORGANIZED AND DO THIS!

NRA needs an F rating themselves.

 

[Trigger Time]

Very true. Maybe a D majority for a term would get the point across.

I would rather eat rancid tuna salad out of an ******* than let the democrats run anything even for a day

 

[Mr Evilwrench]

We have a branch swamp here that needs to be drained. Email your legislatards all you want; you're just another mosquito buzzing in their ear. We need a Governor candidate that stirs up the public outrage that's been anesthetized by decades of impotence, and ride the wave into office even against the opposition of the establishment uniparty. I think there was someone like that once...

 

[MadMan66]

THEY ALL NEED TO GO>>>>>>ALL OF THEM.

I can get behind that!

Whoa, there! I had to fix it for you!

Terribly sorry, rhino! Would hate for people to be out hunting our purple rhino.

 

[IndyDave1776]

We have a branch swamp here that needs to be drained. Email your legislatards all you want; you're just another mosquito buzzing in their ear. We need a Governor candidate that stirs up the public outrage that's been anesthetized by decades of impotence, and ride the wave into office even against the opposition of the establishment uniparty. I think there was someone like that once...

Yes, and it most definitely is NOT the worthless son of a b*tch we have now!

 

[wizardfitz]

I also sent email
here's his facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/BrianBosma2010
maybe go on there and publicly same him?

 

[Cameramonkey]

I also sent email
here's his facebook page.
https://www.facebook.com/BrianBosma2010
maybe go on there and publicly same him?

Save your keystrokes. He wont care so therefore there will be no shame.

 

[Ark]

100% of Indiana politics comes down to what Brian Bosma personally wants. If he doesn't like it, you don't get it.

 

[Crusader17]

State congress made sure to allow legislators and staff the ability to carry on Capitol grounds, however left the rest of the state employees to depend on the Capitol police. They look out for themselves very well.

Anyway, I'm not sure I'd support constitutional carry, I inow this is quite "elitist" of me....but I went through the process and forked over the cash, the rest should have to as well. It's not that I don't support the second amendment, it's that I like knowing you have to at least get looked at to carry a gun legally here. I could see making the fees lower to make the license more accessible to people who would struggle to get $150 together for the lifetime, but at the same time firearms aren't cheap so if you're buying guns you can likely afford the one time fees for a license. I see both sides, and other points of view. I'm glad we get to talk about this instead of wondering if the government is going to totally ban all guns, so it's really a good problem to have...license or no license.

 

[Cameramonkey]

100% of Indiana politics comes down to what Brian Bosma personally wants. If he doesn't like it, you don't get it.

Truest thing I have heard this year.

 

[BiscuitsandGravy]

Save your keystrokes. He wont care so therefore there will be no shame.

QFT.

"Email this, write letters". Save your time and stamps, they don't give a *hit about your letters and emails.

Its time to vote them out.

 

[Trigger Time]

QFT.

"Email this, write letters". Save your time and stamps, they don't give a *hit about your letters and emails.

Its time to vote them out.

Even still write and send them. I want to be able to have a clear conscious that I used all legal methods available to try and effect a constitutional change. No BOSMA probably isn't sober enough to even care but it still makes me feel better to let him know