Ride along with EPD.

[Roadie]

No problem. I know that it seems bad on the outside but, if I walk up to a car and all of a sudden there is a person with a gun how am I going to react or how would you react in my position.

I understand where you are coming from, I really do see both sides of it. The fact you are here, and let one of us ride along with you, says a lot about how you personally feel about gun owners.

Statistics show that Licensed Gun owners commit less than 0.25% of all gun crime, even less than that when we are talking about gun homicide.

If LEOs use the LTCH info accordingly, then great, but if they take it as a warning and see the LTCH as a negative and treat the citizen as a threat BECAUSE of the LTCH, that is where I would have a problem.

In short, the fact a citizen has an LTCH should be a sign the citizen is less likely to be a threat, not more.

 

[Roadie]

"Hi fellow Citizen, good to see you are exercising your Right to Bear Arms on this fine day, may I see your LTCH?"

 

[lrahm]

I understand where you are coming from, I really do see both sides of it. The fact you are here, and let one of us ride along with you, says a lot about how you personally feel about gun owners.

Statistics show that Licensed Gun owners commit less than 0.25% of all gun crime, even less than that when we are talking about gun homicide.

If LEOs use the LTCH info accordingly, then great, but if they take it as a warning and see the LTCH as a negative and treat the citizen as a threat BECAUSE of the LTCH, that is where I would have a problem.

In short, the fact a citizen has an LTCH should be a sign the citizen is less likely to be a threat, not more.

Not criticizing and I apologize if it seems. It has never been me against you. In my eyes it has always been we against them. Them being the ones who threaten us each day. I strongly support the rights to carry a weapon in self defense. Lord knows (by seeing another existing thread) we need it.

 

[Titanium_Frost]

Not criticizing and I apologize if it seems. It has never been me against you. In my eyes it has always been we against them. Them being the ones who threaten us each day. I strongly support the rights to carry a weapon in self defense. Lord knows (by seeing another existing thread) we need it.

I can truly back this up 100% having known Officer Rahm personally and spent a bit of time with him AS he is doing his job. He and other officers out there are truly on our side and we should support them in spite of the others who for whatever reason decide to become the enemy of freedom either for their own personal gain or mybe just satisfaction.

 

[lrahm]

I can truly back this up 100% having known Officer Rahm personally and spent a bit of time with him AS he is doing his job. He and other officers out there are truly on our side and we should support them in spite of the others who for whatever reason decide to become the enemy of freedom either for their own personal gain or mybe just satisfaction.

Hey, thanks. Take care.

 

[Roadie]

Not criticizing and I apologize if it seems. It has never been me against you. In my eyes it has always been we against them. Them being the ones who threaten us each day. I strongly support the rights to carry a weapon in self defense. Lord knows (by seeing another existing thread) we need it.

As I said, I wasn't referring to you at all, but how rather how other LEOs(and they are out there) DO see it as us v them, and see gun owners as threats.

 

[snowrs]

Is this only for in city residents or for those in the county as well, and is it per household? IE do I show on my wife's car because it is in both of our names. That could get sticky

 

[lrahm]

As I said, I wasn't referring to you at all, but how rather how other LEOs(and they are out there) DO see it as us v them, and see gun owners as threats.

I don't know how to honestly answer that question. Overall I would say no. The reason is that we have a lot of officers who use "Red Brush". It's a public (membership) range. The PD contracts out to them yearly for some practice. I've seen a lot of friends up there and have developed some friends. I don't view them as anything else as people who own guns and I own guns too. I had a cousin that owned a ton of guns (200 rifle/shotguns and 100+ handguns). I viewed him as my cousin with a large collection.

 

[serpicostraight]

i shot at redbrush a few times with guy. hes retired epd you might know him. last i heard he got a good job with a big company. i heard the guy that had the gun shop in siegels got in on that gig too.

 

[lrahm]

i shot at redbrush a few times with guy. hes retired epd you might know him. last i heard he got a good job with a big company. i heard the guy that had the gun shop in siegels got in on that gig too.

I rode with Guy when we first went onto the PD. Here we were both on probation riding together. Talk about the blind leading the blind. To make matters worse, our back up car was a person also who was on probation.

 

[serpicostraight]

what did you guys do to get on probation? spill a beer at the fop on nelson?

 

[lrahm]

what did you guys do to get on probation? spill a beer at the fop on nelson?

My fault, I didn't explain. Our first nine months were on probation (rookies). There were 24 of us hired in a month period. There were too many of us to go around with seasoned officers besides none of them wanted to ride with us. So they started having us go to work with each other or by themselves. That would never happen today. Our probation period now is 1 year. We didn't know squat at 6 months.

 

[lrahm]

what did you guys do to get on probation? spill a beer at the fop on nelson?

Just read your FOP on Nelson. That is too FUNNY!

 

[serpicostraight]

i used to be a member there years ago back when bobby d and tom b and all those guys was still around. im not sure ive seen a time when nelson wasnt on one side of the bar or the other. he was a good customer they never had to worry about going broke with him around.

 

[lrahm]

i used to be a member there years ago back when bobby d and tom b and all those guys was still around. im not sure ive seen a time when nelson wasnt on one side of the bar or the other. he was a good customer they never had to worry about going broke with him around.

Worked with Bobby D. Fun loving guy. I miss him. His dad was a photographer in the Pacific during the air campaign. One day he brought in a box of about 200 photographs, from the start to occupation. Quality stuff.

 

[redbaron]

The first part of the AAR was good! Don't know about the second part!?!?

The ride along sounds fun. I would love the opportunity to do it myself.