Ridiculous requirement by Rural King in the Haute

[Clay]

When Carson's Gun Bunker was across the street from Terre Haute South high school, I was not required to case any of the guns I bought from him.

you and I both

 

[M67]

Wait until RK requires you to do the Hokie Pokie as you leave the store, don't laugh, it may be closer than you think

I'd be more scared of the crotch finger infested popcorn

 

[voidsherpa]

Personally I hate the case rule. I hate telling people they need one. Then I hate listening to the complain about it lol. Trust me as much as people dislike the rule the people that work there dislike it even more.

So what would you do when I take my case in there, put up with your shenanigans then when it becomes mine promptly take it out of the case and carry it out? Lifetime ban? Somebody gonna try and mug me for my property?

 

[ilikeguns]

And again THIS IS NOT STORE OR COMPANY POLICY! It is the ATF requiring this! Don't like this? I don't either but all this over a 16.00 case max cost on a long gun case? Bring in your own or shop at another Rural King not in a school zone or pay more for your gun from some where else.

You all have a great day I give up on this thread.

You have multiple people telling you, with the federal law shown in writing, that the ATF has no authority to mandate this. So no matter if the ATF "suggested" it or not, it most certainly is ONLY a store/company policy, no matter how loudly you yell otherwise. The ATF also doesn't say I have to hand over my driver's license to hold a gun, but Rural King made me do that the last time I asked to see a gun too. I really don't see how anyone could defend the whole "must buy a case thing" much less get upset by people calling it out.

 

[rhino]

That's the same policy at the Dunham's in Crawfordsville. They are within 1000 ft of a school.

Yet another good reason to never buy a gun (or anything else) from Dunham's. It's preposterous to expect people to buy guns without allowing them to dry fire at least a few times (rimfires excepted).

Question.................How did they get the Zoning to put a gun counter in that store.
Question.................How did they not know the laws involved.

Hush, you! Don't try to use logic and facts!

At that very store, the Clerk Accused me of being from Illinois and he needed to see my FOID Card before I could see a hand gun in the case. I Informed him that I Never have been accused of being from Illinois and that I was Insulted.

He Apologized But I didn't Buy a gun there. RK is Headquartered in Illinois and they seem to base their store policies on Illinois law

Even in Illinois, long guns only have to be in some kind of closed package. A cardboard box is sufficient.

Their house their rules. Don't buy a gun there issue solved. Or bring a case or even better yet buy a case then return it.

That's fine, but they need to own the rule and not pawn it off on alleged laws that don't exist or the advice of an unnamed BATFE agent.

I work the gun counter part time basically just to help people make good choices and help educate people. Also fill in at another gun shop and work at a gun range besides my full time job. From my understanding the atf agent basically said they would suggest all Guns leave in a locked hard case. So Rural King decided to fallow that suggestion. Kinda of like the should/shall thing with Osha. Personally I hate the case rule. I hate telling people they need one. Then I hate listening to the complain about it lol. Trust me as much as people dislike the rule the people that work there dislike it even more.

Suggesting and requiring are two completely different things. Again, they need to own it and not blame it on laws that don't exist.

No such bull crap in Kokomo. A manager just escorts you to the door with the purchase of said weapon & asks you to put it in the vehicle if you intend to do more shopping. No fuss / no muss and Maple Crest school is within plain view behind Kroger. Oh the humbleness of a big retailer doing legitimate business!!!

I've bought a couple of guns at the Rural King in Lafayette. No such issues there (and they're pretty close the Lafayette Jeff HS) when I've been there. The clerk just carried it to the door for me and thanked me.

1. The stores were already in place before they started selling firearms. So not moving because atf says locked cases are required on gun sales

2. Gun sales are a multi million dollar income for the company, but they are not going to up and relocate to get around an atf requirement.

And again THIS IS NOT STORE OR COMPANY POLICY! It is the ATF requiring this! Don't like this? I don't either but all this over a 16.00 case max cost on a long gun case? Bring in your own or shop at another Rural King not in a school zone or pay more for your gun from some where else.

You all have a great day I give up on this thread.

Are you sure your management or the owners of RK aren't misinterpreting something an BATFE agent said to them?

If it's a BATFE requirement, it should be in writing on BATFE letterhead, and should be available for public scrutiny. Do you have a copy of the document that mentions this requirement? Does your store? Do the RK corporate headquarters?

I don't doubt when you say you were told this. I am, however, like some of the others throwing the BS flag. Either the BATFE agent in question told you or your management something that was not factually correct, or there has been some misinterpretation of what they did say. Again, there should be something writing on BATFE stationery if they actually did advise RK that it's a requirement.

I'd be more scared of the crotch finger infested popcorn

Ugh! UGH!

 

[in625shooter]

Policy or not, law or not, true customer service would be to have a case & a lock that the customer could USE to walk out to the car with. There's no need for the customer to buy a case then return it, right then or 2 days later.

Why do these stores not just pull a case off the shelf, write it off for store use along with a small lock, put the customers gun inside it and walk them out. They get to the car, the customer opens the case and removes their box and hands it all to the employee and drives away.

In the case of Terre Haute because about everyone working the gun counter in that Rural King is a waterhead! You would probably get better firearms advice from some of the a$$hats on YouTube.

Just my experience so I don't go anywhere around the place.

 

[KDUBCR250]

So what would you do when I take my case in there, put up with your shenanigans then when it becomes mine promptly take it out of the case and carry it out? Lifetime ban? Somebody gonna try and mug me for my property?

Firearm goes in the case. Case gets locked. Then is carried out the door and handed to customer. Again Please call the atf and rural king headquarters. Whoever gets this stupid policy changed I'll personaly shake your hand and buy your lunch for a week lol. Until that time bring a case or you'll have to buy one in order to receive your firearm. That's the bottom line.

 

[hopper68]

Firearm goes in the case. Case gets locked. Then is carried out the door and handed to customer. Again Please call the atf and rural king headquarters. Whoever gets this stupid policy changed I'll personaly shake your hand and buy your lunch for a week lol. Until that time bring a case or you'll have to buy one in order to receive your firearm. That's the bottom line.

Seems fairly simply to understand. Be prepared to explain it again in another thread in 6-9 months.

 

[bubbazap]

RK just wants you to buy the case and hopefully you will forget to return the case. For a pistol case 6-10 bucks may not be worth the trip to some. Just like rebates...they count on a certain percentage to not file the rebate or forget to file, or to file without proper documents so you still don't get tebate

 

[Libertarian01]

Just out of curiosity, what is to stop me from:

#1) Buying the gun;
#2) Buying the case;
#3) Walking the gun in the case out to my car;
#4) Removing said gun from said case and storing said gun in my personal vehicle;
#5) Walking back into RK with empty case;
#6) Demanding refund for case on the spot?

Failure to give refund means I leave the case on the clerks F*****g counter, calling my Master Card/Visa in front of him/her, and challenging the charge of $X for the case and the taxes on said case?

Just curious how far they would be willing to throw down when WE are willing to throw down?

IF they want to get pi**y and say something like, "We're calling the cops or ATF or whatever" and we say, "Go for it! I am on private property with a LTCH in Indiana. What are they going to do? Arrest me for bad breath?"

Partial sarcasm but mostly serious question. I changed my mind and I don't want the case. Give me my refund. NOW.

Regards and Merry Christmas,

Doug

EDIT: I am not suggesting that I would be rude, obnoxious or stinky about it. I would be polite, smile, not raise my voice BUT STILL remain firm and entrenched that I want my refund NOW. Not every confrontation has to have rough edges, nor should they.

 

[KDUBCR250]

Just out of curiosity, what is to stop me from:

#1) Buying the gun;
#2) Buying the case;
#3) Walking the gun in the case out to my car;
#4) Removing said gun from said case and storing said gun in my personal vehicle;
#5) Walking back into RK with empty case;
#6) Demanding refund for case on the spot?

Failure to give refund means I leave the case on the clerks F*****g counter, calling my Master Card/Visa in front of him/her, and challenging the charge of $X for the case and the taxes on said case?

Just curious how far they would be willing to throw down when WE are willing to throw down?

IF they want to get pi**y and say something like, "We're calling the cops or ATF or whatever" and we say, "Go for it! I am on private property with a LTCH in Indiana. What are they going to do? Arrest me for bad breath?"

Partial sarcasm but mostly serious question. I changed my mind and I don't want the case. Give me my refund. NOW.

Regards and Merry Christmas,

Doug

EDIT: I am not suggesting that I would be rude, obnoxious or stinky about it. I would be polite, smile, not raise my voice BUT STILL remain firm and entrenched that I want my refund NOW. Not every confrontation has to have rough edges, nor should they.

Uhm nothing ? I actually suggested that in my post.

 

[armstrongchris]

FOID card? I am not familiar with this acronym.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

FOID card? I am not familiar with this acronym.

It's an Illinois thing. I believe it stands for Firearm Owner IDentification.

 

[AngryRooster]

FOID card? I am not familiar with this acronym.

It's a People's Republic of Illinois thing. Firearm Owner ID card. You have to jump through hoops to get one just to buy ammo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOID_(firearms)

 

[rhino]

FOID card?

We don't need no stinkin' FOID card!

 

[nipprdog]

Just out of curiosity, what is to stop me from:

#1) Buying the gun;
#2) Buying the case;
#3) Walking the gun in the case out to my car;
#4) Removing said gun from said case and storing said gun in my personal vehicle;
#5) Walking back into RK with empty case;
#6) Demanding refund for case on the spot?

Failure to give refund means I leave the case on the clerks F*****g counter, calling my Master Card/Visa in front of him/her, and challenging the charge of $X for the case and the taxes on said case?

Just curious how far they would be willing to throw down when WE are willing to throw down?

IF they want to get pi**y and say something like, "We're calling the cops or ATF or whatever" and we say, "Go for it! I am on private property with a LTCH in Indiana. What are they going to do? Arrest me for bad breath?"

Partial sarcasm but mostly serious question. I changed my mind and I don't want the case. Give me my refund. NOW.

Regards and Merry Christmas,

Doug

EDIT: I am not suggesting that I would be rude, obnoxious or stinky about it. I would be polite, smile, not raise my voice BUT STILL remain firm and entrenched that I want my refund NOW. Not every confrontation has to have rough edges, nor should they.

 

[in625shooter]

Something funny sort of on topic at the Terre Haute RK. Several years ago (around 2004) I bought a 600 dollar utility trailer. They didn't have any more that size assembled, I said I can attach the arm to it could I use a wrench.

The sales manager goes "well we have one we could sell you" I pointed out that was a punk move especially for a customer that just paid over 600 in cash. I can just get a refund. We sort of had a stand off a minute til I said I'm not joking your not the only trailer place. He goes OK here you can use this one.

I didn't go back for a while after that one. So the gun case issue don't surprise me.

 

[rennocneb]

their prices might be a bit better, but its not worth dealing with the morons that work the counter. Every single one ive been to the firearms counter folks are obviously not gun people