Rock River and Springfield Armory sold out our neighbors in Illinois.

[Phase2]

He wants me to to go sign up to help fight this bill? Would not even be a problem if they did not go from against it to neutral. Are you kidding me this is his mess that SA and Rock did. Take all there profits for a year sell there houses and cars but it all into fighting this bill. Don't ask me for money or time to clean up there mess.

Actually, helping to clean up the mess is the right thing to do. It sucks that SA/RRA put us here, but the rule they violated was taking a pass on pushing back against firearm control. Don't make that same mistake when a simple e-mail/phone call/etc. can help.

 

[longbow]

I've been busy...where are we at on this. I'd love to find a way to purchase them and move them to Indiana

 

[JDimitri]

SA and RRA tried to come up with a sorry excuse of we did not know what was going on when the lobbyist who push for this were the very heads of RRA and SA, so some people will sympathize with them over their lies and pitiful attempts of an apology all for a business advantage.

 

[TheDude]

I've been busy...where are we at on this. I'd love to find a way to purchase them and move them to Indiana

Now there's a fine idea, why don't we have any big manufacturers here?

 

[Spear Dane]

Now there's a fine idea, why don't we have any big manufacturers here?

That's a good question. Most of the big names live in communist states.

 

[2A_Tom]

GARY!

 

[bmbutch]

From IG & FB posts, they are still taking some heat for what they did, but it has cooled down tremendously. I'm one of those hard headed types, neither brand is on my "to purchase list".

 

[lonehoosier]

Now there's a fine idea, why don't we have any big manufacturers here?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...l-targets-lawsuit-against-gun-maker/23325707/

 

[2A_Tom]

Thanks Jay.

As for SA and RRA they are dead to me. SA sends me promo e mails and I reply to every one. They will eventually get the message.

 

[SteveM4A1]

Thanks Jay.

As for SA and RRA they are dead to me. SA sends me promo e mails and I reply to every one. They will eventually get the message.

No they won't. I am sure your email goes right to the trash.

 

[churchmouse]

From IG & FB posts, they are still taking some heat for what they did, but it has cooled down tremendously. I'm one of those hard headed types, neither brand is on my "to purchase list".

I have put RRA on the no purchase list new or used. Just to many good offerings out there in AR's.
I will however consider a used SA piece if the right one pops up. New......Never again. Ever.

 

[Expat]

I am curious if there has been any effect on sales for the companies at all. I have asked my sales guy at the LGS and he said he hasn't heard anyone but me bring it up and hasn't seen any change in sales of SA stuff.

 

[Spear Dane]

Thanks Jay.

As for SA and RRA they are dead to me. SA sends me promo e mails and I reply to every one. They will eventually get the message.

If you look at the emails you will probably find they have 'Don't Reply to this' messages on them as they tend to get sent from unmonitored accounts.

 

[shootersix]

the problem is this, right now, if you stop buying springfield and rra, you hurt the local gun shop, I know! the one I work at hasn't sold one springfield since the poo hit the fan....so we have 6 springfields that we have already paid for, that we cant sell (we don't stock rra)


so consumers not buying springfields only hurt the local dealers/distributors, by the time it hits your lgs, sa/rra have already been paid! so if your lgs buys a sa1911 from a distributor today, that's a different story!, but one sitting on the shelf since febuary is hurting your lgs, if they (lgs) return it, we have to pay a restocking fee!, so we loose money, and the same with the distributors if they return it to sa

i completely understand the hate towards sa/rra, but in the short run, not buying them only hurt your local gun shops! and we need those!

 

[AmmoManAaron]

the problem is this, right now, if you stop buying springfield and rra, you hurt the local gun shop, I know! the one I work at hasn't sold one springfield since the poo hit the fan....so we have 6 springfields that we have already paid for, that we cant sell (we don't stock rra)


so consumers not buying springfields only hurt the local dealers/distributors, by the time it hits your lgs, sa/rra have already been paid! so if your lgs buys a sa1911 from a distributor today, that's a different story!, but one sitting on the shelf since febuary is hurting your lgs, if they (lgs) return it, we have to pay a restocking fee!, so we loose money, and the same with the distributors if they return it to sa

i completely understand the hate towards sa/rra, but in the short run, not buying them only hurt your local gun shops! and we need those!

Many shops made the news and got positive public relations out of this situation by advertising they were blowing out the SA and RRA firearms at cost and not restocking. The local shops around here could've done that too and avoided their current problem.

 

[2A_Tom]

So you have an item sitting there gathering dust and costing more every day, sorry. I have made bad investments and I had to eat it.

 

[gglass]

the problem is this, right now, if you stop buying springfield and rra, you hurt the local gun shop, I know! the one I work at hasn't sold one springfield since the poo hit the fan....so we have 6 springfields that we have already paid for, that we cant sell (we don't stock rra)


so consumers not buying springfields only hurt the local dealers/distributors, by the time it hits your lgs, sa/rra have already been paid! so if your lgs buys a sa1911 from a distributor today, that's a different story!, but one sitting on the shelf since febuary is hurting your lgs, if they (lgs) return it, we have to pay a restocking fee!, so we loose money, and the same with the distributors if they return it to sa

i completely understand the hate towards sa/rra, but in the short run, not buying them only hurt your local gun shops! and we need those!

The only problem I see with the situation you described for small dealers is that when you do eventually sell the SA products on hand, is that you will likely turn around and purchase more of those items due to the current demand. When that happens, those participating in a boycott of those products have then lost.

It looks like a no-win situation for all involved in the SA/RRA debacle.

 

[AngryRooster]

the problem is this, right now, if you stop buying springfield and rra, you hurt the local gun shop, I know! the one I work at hasn't sold one springfield since the poo hit the fan....so we have 6 springfields that we have already paid for, that we cant sell (we don't stock rra)


so consumers not buying springfields only hurt the local dealers/distributors, by the time it hits your lgs, sa/rra have already been paid! so if your lgs buys a sa1911 from a distributor today, that's a different story!, but one sitting on the shelf since febuary is hurting your lgs, if they (lgs) return it, we have to pay a restocking fee!, so we loose money, and the same with the distributors if they return it to sa

i completely understand the hate towards sa/rra, but in the short run, not buying them only hurt your local gun shops! and we need those!

So how many more are you going to purchase BEFORE those are sold? None, more than likely (I hope). Run a special on them and get rid of them at cost then don't re-order. If someone comes in looking for one then tell them why they aren't in stock. You can always take a deposit and order one for them. If they're a die hard Springer fan that doesn't care about what they did then they probably won't mind waiting a couple days to get exactly what they are after. You don't end up holding inventory you have a hard time moving, and aren't supporting the despicable decisions of a company that people are pissed at.