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Your right I forgot about that 200 mile ferry ride across the Caspian Sea between Aqtau, Kazakhstan and Makhachkala, Dagestan then that awful 110 mile drive to T'elavi, Georgia
How could I forget that?
Ain't the internet wonderful, you can find anything!
I hate to break it to you, but Tel Aviv is in Israel, not Georgia.
And yes, I'm pulling your leg.
Either everyone else missed the joke on this one or no one besides me thought it was funny.
Or others who might have thought it funny hadn't seen it yet.
Blessings,
B
T'elavi / T'elavi, Georgia (general), Georgia, Asia :rolleyesedit:I hate to break it to you, but Tel Aviv is in Israel, not Georgia.
And yes, I'm pulling your leg.
Or others who might have thought it funny hadn't seen it yet.
Blessings,
B
I hate to break it to you, but Tel Aviv is in Israel, not Georgia.
And yes, I'm pulling your leg.
Or others who might have thought it funny hadn't seen it yet.
Blessings,
B
Don't you roll your eyes at ME, Mister!
Did you, perchance miss where I said I was pulling his leg?
Blessings,
B
MilitaryArms
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Tel Avivi might be in Israel but Telavi is in Georgia.
Telavi, Georgia - Google Maps
opcorn2:Hehe. Leg puller!
I hate to break it to you, but Tel Aviv is in Israel, not Georgia.
And yes, I'm pulling your leg.
Blessings,
B
I must'a been the only one who saw you pullin' my leg!
Good one
On a more serious note this deal ain't lookin' good!
I certainly, for more than the obvious reason, hope no American blood is/has been spilled!
Feces nearing fan blades:do2:
shotbyspike
Marksman
Well I'm sure the EU and UN will send a disapproving letter to Russia and the fight will be over in a few days.
Russia doesn't want another ex soviet nation becoming a part of NATO. Oil is probably involved some how also.
Russia doesn't want another ex soviet nation becoming a part of NATO. Oil is probably involved some how also.
hopefully this doesnt pull into a WW3, although i dont think Russia itself has a strong enough military to pull it off, allies with certain countries could change that quickly. I've been watching this topic very closely and personally i hope they get some help from either US and/or allied countries. I understand we dont want any American blood spilled over this, but we do have an alliance with this country that cant just be shoved aside. Georgia stands for democracy and it will fail if they receive no help from those they follow. I can only hope the best for Georgia.
“If Georgia fails, it will send a message to everyone that this path doesn’t work.” - President Saakashvili
“If Georgia fails, it will send a message to everyone that this path doesn’t work.” - President Saakashvili
The Pipeline War: Russian bear goes for West's jugular
By Svetlana Skarbo and Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 1:00 PM on 10th August 2008
The war in Georgia escalated dangerously last night after Russian jets reportedly bombed a vital pipeline that supplies oil to the West.
After a day of heightening international tensions, Georgian leaders claimed that the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which transports oil from the Caspian Sea to Turkey, had been attacked. But it is thought the bombs missed their target.
Their claims came after Russian jets struck deep into the territory of its tiny neighbour, killing civilians and ‘completely devastating’ the strategic Black Sea port of Poti, a staging post for oil and other energy supplies.
Reports last night also said that Russia had bombed the international airport in Tbilisi.
A bloodied woman lies injured in the ruins of an apartment block in Gori after another Russian air strike
Georgian economic development minister Ekaterina Sharashidzne said: ‘This clearly shows that Russia has targeted not just Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets as well.’
The pipeline is 30 per cent owned by BP and supplies 1 per cent of the world’s oil needs, pumping up to a million barrels of crude per day to Turkey.
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It is crucial to the world’s volatile energy market and the only oil and gas route that bypasses Russia’s stranglehold on energy exports from the region.
As President Bush led the West in intensifying pressure on Russia to halt the bombing in Georgia last night, the two countries were edging closer to full-scale war over their conflicting claims for disputed territory.
Under attack: Georgian soldiers in the town of Gori sprint past a block of flats destroyed by a Russian bomber
Georgia’s President Mikheil Saakashvili called for a ceasefire and accused Moscow of mounting an unprovoked invasion that put ‘the entire post-Cold War order of Europe and the world at stake’.
But Moscow said that the conflict could not be resolved unless Georgia withdrew from its breakaway region of South Ossetia. The alarming developments followed a second day of drama and bloodshed in the pro-Western country in which:
• Russian jets widened the offensive by bombing the central Georgian town of Gori – Joseph Stalin’s birthplace – in an attack on military targets that Georgian authorities claimed killed 60 civilians, and attacked the port of Poti.
• Georgia claimed that Russian troops had opened a new front by moving into another disputed province, Abkhazia, which has also suffered from ethnic tensions.
• Georgia declared a state of war, recalled all its 2,000 troops from Iraq and ordered a mass call-up with reservists being sent to the war zone to ‘defend the motherland’.
• Russia claimed that it had ‘completely liberated’ the capital of South Ossetia Tskhinvali – a claim denied by Georgia – after flying in elite troops in an operation Moscow said was intended to force Georgia into a ceasefire.
• Georgia claimed to have shot down 12 Russian combat aircraft – but Moscow confirmed that only two planes were missing.
• Georgia may pull its 35-strong Olympic team out of the Beijing games because of the Russian military attacks, the country’s National Olympic Committee said.
Anguish: A man cradles the body of a relative in the street after Russian planes bomb homes in Gori, killing five people
The forces of the two countries first clashed on Friday after Moscow sent hundreds of troops and armed convoys across the border into South Ossetia to repel a Georgian attack on rebels allied to Moscow.
Almost 40,000 refugees have already fled to Russia from the fighting, threatening a humanitarian catastrophe.
Tskhinvali was said to have been ‘almost destroyed’ in onslaughts by both sides.
Bodies lay in the streets and hospitals were overwhelmed with wounded.
Most of the 70,000 South Ossetians hold Russian passports and are allied to Moscow, while Georgia is an ally of the US and has applied to join Nato.
Russian bombers yesterday widened the offensive to force Georgian troops back from South Ossetia by bombing.
Devastation: Troops search a wrecked building for survivors
In his first Press conference since the conflict broke out early yesterday, President Saakashvili said: ‘I call for an immediate ceasefire. Russia has launched a full-scale military invasion of Georgia.’
He reacted furiously to the air strikes on Gori and Poti, saying that it was comparable to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
He also alleged that Russian troops were opening up another front, adding: ‘Hours ago Russia’s Black Sea fleet started to move into Georgia’s territory in Abkhazia. Russian troops and heavy equipment are in upper Abkhazia.’
He said Russia was conducting ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Ossetia and Abkhazia’s Kodoro Gorge region.
Fleeing: A boy and a woman stare in terror at the carnage from a vehicle as they are evacuated from South Ossetia
The Georgian Parliament has approved a declaration for a ‘state of war’ for 15 days after at least 2,000 civilians were killed in fighting between Russia and the former Soviet satellite.
Overnight, two Russian planes were shot down and 12 of its soldiers were killed – along with more civilians who died during fighting in South Ossetia.
Russian fighter jets carried out up to five raids on mostly military targets around Gori – close to the conflict zone in South Ossetia – but at least one bomb is thought to have hit an apartment, killing five civilians, according to reports.
The Foreign Office upgraded its travel advice to urge against all but essential travel to Georgia. Foreign Secretary David Miliband was under mounting pressure to consider breaking off his summer holiday to tackle the mounting crisis.
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Mr Miliband, on holiday in Minorca, issued his first statement on the the affair late yesterday to call for a ceasefire ‘and for peace talks to start as soon as possible’.
He also announced that he was sending Sir Brian Fall, the Foreign Office representative for the South Caucasus, to Georgia as part of an EU peace mission.
Defence Minister Des Browne said a delegation of EU, US and Nato officials was flying to the Georgian capital ‘to broker a ceasefire’.
The move caps two days of faltering diplomatic activity, in which members of the United Nations Security Council have struggled to convene an emergency meeting.
Belgium’s UN Ambassador Jan Grauls, who chairs the 15-member council this month, had spoken to his Russian and American counterparts.
‘Depending on how much progress is made in these bilaterals, we will decide whether we can call a full council meeting,’ his spokesman said.
President Bush expressed alarm about the escalating conflict and called on Russia to respect Georgia’s territorial integrity.
In Beijing, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was seen to approach President Bush in the Olympic stadium, where they were attending the opening ceremony.
The Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he witnessed a heated discussion between the two leaders.
‘The President and Mr Putin were in an animated conversation two seats in front of us and I imagine they had a few things on their agenda,’ he said.
Mr Putin later accused Georgia of seeking ‘bloody adventures’ and trying to drag other countries into a military conflict in South Ossetia.
‘Georgia’s aspiration to join Nato... is driven by its attempt to drag other nations and peoples into its bloody adventures,’ Mr Putin said during a meeting in the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, some of which was shown on TV.
Mr Putin defended Russia’s incursion into South Ossetia and urged Georgia to halt ‘aggression’ against the breakaway region.
‘From a legal point of view, Russia’s actions in South Ossetia are totally legitimate,’ said Putin, who flew to the city after attending the opening of the Olympics.
‘We urge the Georgian authorities to immediately stop their aggression against South Ossetia, to stop all violations of all standing agreements on a ceasefire and to respect the legal rights and interests of other people.’
Soon afterwards the US, Nato and the EU called for an immediate end to the fighting and the UN Security Council convened a tense emergency session to try to prevent all-out war.
Georgian forces say they have fought off attacks by Abkhazian separatists, backed by Russian air raids, in the Kodori Gorge region.
Russian forces invaded Abkhazia hours after taking control of most of South Ossetia, said President Saakashvili.
As the conflict escalated rapidly, Mr Saakashvili said his country had formally moved to a state of war and offered an immediate ceasefire.
He said Moscow had been planning the assault for months, accused Russia of actions similar to Stalin’s invasion of Finland in 1939 and said ‘the entire post-Cold War order of Europe and the world is at stake’.
Foreign journalists witnessed an air attack on the town of Gori early yesterday morning and the Georgian government claimed Russian bombers had ‘completely devastated’ the Black Sea port of Poti.
Russia has reportedly started to bomb civil and economic infrastructure, including the military base at Senaki. Up to 11 Russian jets reportedly hit container tanks and a shipbuilding plant at Poti.
Moscow has announced it would send reinforcements into South Ossetia and President Dmitry Medvedev has pledged to ‘force the Georgian side to peace’.
Colonel Igor Konashenkov, a Russian infantry officer, said units of the 58th army had arrived in Tskhinvali overnight and would seek to ‘establish peace. Additional ‘special units’ would arrive ‘in the next few hours’.
Columns of Russian tanks plunged the two neighbours into war as they filed into South Ossetia yesterday, marking the Kremlin’s first military assault on foreign soil since the Afghanistan intervention, which ended in 1989.
South Ossetia won de-facto independence in a war that ended in 1992 but has been a source of tension ever since.
Russian peacekeepers have suffered 15 dead and 150 wounded, the peacekeeping forces were quoted as saying by Russian news agencies.
‘Now our peacekeepers are waging a fierce battle with regular forces from the Georgian army in the southern region of Tskhinvali,’ a representative of the Russian force was quoted as saying by Interfax.
Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia, said: ‘I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings and in cars. It’s impossible to count them now.’
The greatest mismatch in history of war
Georgia’s war with Russia is a David and Goliath battle that, military experts say, the Black Sea state has no chance of winning.
The Georgians are outnumbered and outgunned in every department. Russia has about 697,000 troops, while Georgia has only 19,500 full-time regulars.
And with Russia’s 1,200 combat aircraft confronting Georgia’s seven outmoded support planes, and 6,000 tanks against 100 ageing machines, there is no contest.
Matthew Clements, Eurasia editor for Jane’s Defence journal, said last night: ‘The Georgian military cannot withstand a full Russian assault.
'The Russians have total air superiority and their coordinated operation gives the Georgians no chance of resisting
The Pipeline War: Russian bear goes for West's jugular | Mail Online
By Svetlana Skarbo and Jonathan Petre
Last updated at 1:00 PM on 10th August 2008
The war in Georgia escalated dangerously last night after Russian jets reportedly bombed a vital pipeline that supplies oil to the West.
After a day of heightening international tensions, Georgian leaders claimed that the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline, which transports oil from the Caspian Sea to Turkey, had been attacked. But it is thought the bombs missed their target.
Their claims came after Russian jets struck deep into the territory of its tiny neighbour, killing civilians and ‘completely devastating’ the strategic Black Sea port of Poti, a staging post for oil and other energy supplies.
Reports last night also said that Russia had bombed the international airport in Tbilisi.
A bloodied woman lies injured in the ruins of an apartment block in Gori after another Russian air strike
Georgian economic development minister Ekaterina Sharashidzne said: ‘This clearly shows that Russia has targeted not just Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets as well.’
The pipeline is 30 per cent owned by BP and supplies 1 per cent of the world’s oil needs, pumping up to a million barrels of crude per day to Turkey.
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It is crucial to the world’s volatile energy market and the only oil and gas route that bypasses Russia’s stranglehold on energy exports from the region.
As President Bush led the West in intensifying pressure on Russia to halt the bombing in Georgia last night, the two countries were edging closer to full-scale war over their conflicting claims for disputed territory.
Under attack: Georgian soldiers in the town of Gori sprint past a block of flats destroyed by a Russian bomber
Georgia’s President Mikheil Saakashvili called for a ceasefire and accused Moscow of mounting an unprovoked invasion that put ‘the entire post-Cold War order of Europe and the world at stake’.
But Moscow said that the conflict could not be resolved unless Georgia withdrew from its breakaway region of South Ossetia. The alarming developments followed a second day of drama and bloodshed in the pro-Western country in which:
• Russian jets widened the offensive by bombing the central Georgian town of Gori – Joseph Stalin’s birthplace – in an attack on military targets that Georgian authorities claimed killed 60 civilians, and attacked the port of Poti.
• Georgia claimed that Russian troops had opened a new front by moving into another disputed province, Abkhazia, which has also suffered from ethnic tensions.
• Georgia declared a state of war, recalled all its 2,000 troops from Iraq and ordered a mass call-up with reservists being sent to the war zone to ‘defend the motherland’.
• Russia claimed that it had ‘completely liberated’ the capital of South Ossetia Tskhinvali – a claim denied by Georgia – after flying in elite troops in an operation Moscow said was intended to force Georgia into a ceasefire.
• Georgia claimed to have shot down 12 Russian combat aircraft – but Moscow confirmed that only two planes were missing.
• Georgia may pull its 35-strong Olympic team out of the Beijing games because of the Russian military attacks, the country’s National Olympic Committee said.
Anguish: A man cradles the body of a relative in the street after Russian planes bomb homes in Gori, killing five people
The forces of the two countries first clashed on Friday after Moscow sent hundreds of troops and armed convoys across the border into South Ossetia to repel a Georgian attack on rebels allied to Moscow.
Almost 40,000 refugees have already fled to Russia from the fighting, threatening a humanitarian catastrophe.
Tskhinvali was said to have been ‘almost destroyed’ in onslaughts by both sides.
Bodies lay in the streets and hospitals were overwhelmed with wounded.
Most of the 70,000 South Ossetians hold Russian passports and are allied to Moscow, while Georgia is an ally of the US and has applied to join Nato.
Russian bombers yesterday widened the offensive to force Georgian troops back from South Ossetia by bombing.
Devastation: Troops search a wrecked building for survivors
In his first Press conference since the conflict broke out early yesterday, President Saakashvili said: ‘I call for an immediate ceasefire. Russia has launched a full-scale military invasion of Georgia.’
He reacted furiously to the air strikes on Gori and Poti, saying that it was comparable to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
He also alleged that Russian troops were opening up another front, adding: ‘Hours ago Russia’s Black Sea fleet started to move into Georgia’s territory in Abkhazia. Russian troops and heavy equipment are in upper Abkhazia.’
He said Russia was conducting ethnic cleansing of Georgians in Ossetia and Abkhazia’s Kodoro Gorge region.
Fleeing: A boy and a woman stare in terror at the carnage from a vehicle as they are evacuated from South Ossetia
The Georgian Parliament has approved a declaration for a ‘state of war’ for 15 days after at least 2,000 civilians were killed in fighting between Russia and the former Soviet satellite.
Overnight, two Russian planes were shot down and 12 of its soldiers were killed – along with more civilians who died during fighting in South Ossetia.
Russian fighter jets carried out up to five raids on mostly military targets around Gori – close to the conflict zone in South Ossetia – but at least one bomb is thought to have hit an apartment, killing five civilians, according to reports.
The Foreign Office upgraded its travel advice to urge against all but essential travel to Georgia. Foreign Secretary David Miliband was under mounting pressure to consider breaking off his summer holiday to tackle the mounting crisis.
Enlarge
Mr Miliband, on holiday in Minorca, issued his first statement on the the affair late yesterday to call for a ceasefire ‘and for peace talks to start as soon as possible’.
He also announced that he was sending Sir Brian Fall, the Foreign Office representative for the South Caucasus, to Georgia as part of an EU peace mission.
Defence Minister Des Browne said a delegation of EU, US and Nato officials was flying to the Georgian capital ‘to broker a ceasefire’.
The move caps two days of faltering diplomatic activity, in which members of the United Nations Security Council have struggled to convene an emergency meeting.
Belgium’s UN Ambassador Jan Grauls, who chairs the 15-member council this month, had spoken to his Russian and American counterparts.
‘Depending on how much progress is made in these bilaterals, we will decide whether we can call a full council meeting,’ his spokesman said.
President Bush expressed alarm about the escalating conflict and called on Russia to respect Georgia’s territorial integrity.
In Beijing, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin was seen to approach President Bush in the Olympic stadium, where they were attending the opening ceremony.
The Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said he witnessed a heated discussion between the two leaders.
‘The President and Mr Putin were in an animated conversation two seats in front of us and I imagine they had a few things on their agenda,’ he said.
Mr Putin later accused Georgia of seeking ‘bloody adventures’ and trying to drag other countries into a military conflict in South Ossetia.
‘Georgia’s aspiration to join Nato... is driven by its attempt to drag other nations and peoples into its bloody adventures,’ Mr Putin said during a meeting in the Russian city of Vladikavkaz, some of which was shown on TV.
Mr Putin defended Russia’s incursion into South Ossetia and urged Georgia to halt ‘aggression’ against the breakaway region.
‘From a legal point of view, Russia’s actions in South Ossetia are totally legitimate,’ said Putin, who flew to the city after attending the opening of the Olympics.
‘We urge the Georgian authorities to immediately stop their aggression against South Ossetia, to stop all violations of all standing agreements on a ceasefire and to respect the legal rights and interests of other people.’
Soon afterwards the US, Nato and the EU called for an immediate end to the fighting and the UN Security Council convened a tense emergency session to try to prevent all-out war.
Georgian forces say they have fought off attacks by Abkhazian separatists, backed by Russian air raids, in the Kodori Gorge region.
Russian forces invaded Abkhazia hours after taking control of most of South Ossetia, said President Saakashvili.
As the conflict escalated rapidly, Mr Saakashvili said his country had formally moved to a state of war and offered an immediate ceasefire.
He said Moscow had been planning the assault for months, accused Russia of actions similar to Stalin’s invasion of Finland in 1939 and said ‘the entire post-Cold War order of Europe and the world is at stake’.
Foreign journalists witnessed an air attack on the town of Gori early yesterday morning and the Georgian government claimed Russian bombers had ‘completely devastated’ the Black Sea port of Poti.
Russia has reportedly started to bomb civil and economic infrastructure, including the military base at Senaki. Up to 11 Russian jets reportedly hit container tanks and a shipbuilding plant at Poti.
Moscow has announced it would send reinforcements into South Ossetia and President Dmitry Medvedev has pledged to ‘force the Georgian side to peace’.
Colonel Igor Konashenkov, a Russian infantry officer, said units of the 58th army had arrived in Tskhinvali overnight and would seek to ‘establish peace. Additional ‘special units’ would arrive ‘in the next few hours’.
Columns of Russian tanks plunged the two neighbours into war as they filed into South Ossetia yesterday, marking the Kremlin’s first military assault on foreign soil since the Afghanistan intervention, which ended in 1989.
South Ossetia won de-facto independence in a war that ended in 1992 but has been a source of tension ever since.
Russian peacekeepers have suffered 15 dead and 150 wounded, the peacekeeping forces were quoted as saying by Russian news agencies.
‘Now our peacekeepers are waging a fierce battle with regular forces from the Georgian army in the southern region of Tskhinvali,’ a representative of the Russian force was quoted as saying by Interfax.
Lyudmila Ostayeva, 50, who fled with her family to Dzhava, a village near the border with Russia, said: ‘I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings and in cars. It’s impossible to count them now.’
The greatest mismatch in history of war
Georgia’s war with Russia is a David and Goliath battle that, military experts say, the Black Sea state has no chance of winning.
The Georgians are outnumbered and outgunned in every department. Russia has about 697,000 troops, while Georgia has only 19,500 full-time regulars.
And with Russia’s 1,200 combat aircraft confronting Georgia’s seven outmoded support planes, and 6,000 tanks against 100 ageing machines, there is no contest.
Matthew Clements, Eurasia editor for Jane’s Defence journal, said last night: ‘The Georgian military cannot withstand a full Russian assault.
'The Russians have total air superiority and their coordinated operation gives the Georgians no chance of resisting
The Pipeline War: Russian bear goes for West's jugular | Mail Online
I'm not sure the war will be over in two days, but about the only thing Russia will get is a disapproving letter. Bush seems to be talking tough, but the bottom line is there is now way the US will get involved in this mess. It's kind of sad that we let allies get pummeled and do nothing.
Russia Orders ‘Destruction’ of US Naval Armada In Persian Gulf
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
Reports in the Kremlin today are stating that Prime Minister Putin has ordered the Defence Ministry of the Russian Federation to put the Volga-Urals Military District and Black Sea Fleet on ‘full war alert’ to prepare for the defense of the Iranian Nation against what is being termed as an ‘imminent attack’ being planned by the Western Powers.
As we had previously reported on in our August 8th report, “Kuwait Goes On ‘War Alert’ As Massive US Armada Heads For Iran”, the fears of Russian Military Analysts have been realized with the US backed puppet state of Georgia launching an unprecedented and unprovoked attack upon the Russian protected enclave of South Ossetia, and to which the latest reports have put the death toll at over 1,500 citizens of Russia and over 15 Russian Peacekeepers.
In a bid to force Russia from its planned defense of the Iranian peoples by provoking war in the Caucasus, however, the West has severely miscalculated as Putin has not only ordered the retaking of South Ossetia from the Western backed Georgian forces, but has also ordered the destruction of all oil pipelines going through Georgia to the West.
The first of these attacks is being reported today, and as we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service:
“Russian fighter jets targeted the the major Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline which carries oil to the West from Asia but missed, Georgia's Economic Development Minister Ekaterina Sharashidze said on Saturday."This clearly shows that Russia has not just targeted Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets in Georgia," she said at a news briefing.”
The West is, also, not alone in arousing the might of the Russia’s, as the Israelis have sided with their Western backers against the Russian people, and as we can read as reported by one of Israel’s intelligence organs DEBKAfile:
“Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.
Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.
Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.
These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.
In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”
This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.”
These reports continue by stating that the massive US backed Naval Armada, said to be the largest assembled since World War II, heading towards war with Iran will be met by both Russian and Iranian counterattacks aimed at destroying these enemy forces prior to their planned attack.
It is, also, interesting to note, that after unleashing the Israeli led puppet Georgian military forces against unarmed Russian citizens and lightly armed Russian peacekeepers, President Bush has said, “This fighting must stop, and, “I am deeply concerned about the situation in Georgia,” he said. “The United States takes this matter very seriously.”
But, not as seriously as he claims as he had just previously instructed his Ambassador to the United Nations to veto Russia’s resolution before the Security Council that stated, and as China’s Xinhua reports:
“The draft also called on "the parties to cease bloodshed without delay and renounce the use of force." Diplomats said that during the closed-door consultations, the council failed to reach an agreement on the Russian text because some council members, including the United States, opposed the part calling on the parties to "renounce the use of force."
President Medvedev was so livid after President Bush’s refusal to commit to peace that, these reports continue, he ordered the ‘immediate and systematic’ destruction of Georgian Military Forces, ‘wherever they are located in the World’.
Georgia’s President, Mikheil Saakashvili, responded to Medvedev’s moves by declaring martial law in Georgia and ordering all Georgian troops home from Iraq, where they had been stationed providing support to the US in its war on the Muslim peoples of the World.
These latest moves by the Georgian dictator, however, are appearing too late in this war to save his troubled Nation, and as we can read from the latest battlefield updates:
“The war between Russia and Georgia expanded on Saturday, with fighting spilling outside the Caucasus province of Ossetia, both sides moving reinforcements into the region and Georgian President Mikheil Saakhashvili declaring martial law in the country.
While the international community continued to exhort both sides to step back from the brink, the United Nations Security Council remained unable to forge a united response. The fiercest battles were in the South Ossetian city of Tskhinvali, where street fighting and artillery exchanges continued throughout the day and eyewitnesses reported city blocks reduced to rubble.
Russian forces consisting of Spetsnaz special forces infantry, and paratrooper infantry flown in from the Russian interior had captured Tskhinvali by Saturday afternoon, Georgian officials said. Aleksander Lomaia, Georgia's national security chief, in a telephone interview said Georgian forces had pulled back from the town 'unilaterally.' Lomaia estimated the Russian infantry assault force at 1,500 to 2,500 troopers.
Counts of civilian casualties varied widely, with Georgia estimating between one and two dozen killed, and some 100 injured as of Friday evening. Eduard Kokoity, South Ossetia's leader, claimed more than 1,600 civilians had died and implied thousands more had been injured.”
And, as Prime Minister Putin has just arrived in the War Region of South Ossetia, the resolve of the Worlds peace loving Nations to stop the expansion of the Western Powers though military might appears to have met its most logical first major obstacle by the awakening of a very, very angry Russian Bear from its long hibernation since the dissolution of the Soviet Empire.
Russia Orders ‘Destruction’ of US Naval Armada In Persian Gulf
As we had previously reported on in our August 8th report, “Kuwait Goes On ‘War Alert’ As Massive US Armada Heads For Iran”, the fears of Russian Military Analysts have been realized with the US backed puppet state of Georgia launching an unprecedented and unprovoked attack upon the Russian protected enclave of South Ossetia, and to which the latest reports have put the death toll at over 1,500 citizens of Russia and over 15 Russian Peacekeepers.
In a bid to force Russia from its planned defense of the Iranian peoples by provoking war in the Caucasus, however, the West has severely miscalculated as Putin has not only ordered the retaking of South Ossetia from the Western backed Georgian forces, but has also ordered the destruction of all oil pipelines going through Georgia to the West.
The first of these attacks is being reported today, and as we can read as reported by the Reuters News Service:
“Russian fighter jets targeted the the major Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan (BTC) oil pipeline which carries oil to the West from Asia but missed, Georgia's Economic Development Minister Ekaterina Sharashidze said on Saturday."This clearly shows that Russia has not just targeted Georgian economic outlets but international economic outlets in Georgia," she said at a news briefing.”
The West is, also, not alone in arousing the might of the Russia’s, as the Israelis have sided with their Western backers against the Russian people, and as we can read as reported by one of Israel’s intelligence organs DEBKAfile:
“Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.
Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.
Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.
These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.
In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”
This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.”
These reports continue by stating that the massive US backed Naval Armada, said to be the largest assembled since World War II, heading towards war with Iran will be met by both Russian and Iranian counterattacks aimed at destroying these enemy forces prior to their planned attack.
It is, also, interesting to note, that after unleashing the Israeli led puppet Georgian military forces against unarmed Russian citizens and lightly armed Russian peacekeepers, President Bush has said, “This fighting must stop, and, “I am deeply concerned about the situation in Georgia,” he said. “The United States takes this matter very seriously.”
But, not as seriously as he claims as he had just previously instructed his Ambassador to the United Nations to veto Russia’s resolution before the Security Council that stated, and as China’s Xinhua reports:
“The draft also called on "the parties to cease bloodshed without delay and renounce the use of force." Diplomats said that during the closed-door consultations, the council failed to reach an agreement on the Russian text because some council members, including the United States, opposed the part calling on the parties to "renounce the use of force."
President Medvedev was so livid after President Bush’s refusal to commit to peace that, these reports continue, he ordered the ‘immediate and systematic’ destruction of Georgian Military Forces, ‘wherever they are located in the World’.
Georgia’s President, Mikheil Saakashvili, responded to Medvedev’s moves by declaring martial law in Georgia and ordering all Georgian troops home from Iraq, where they had been stationed providing support to the US in its war on the Muslim peoples of the World.
These latest moves by the Georgian dictator, however, are appearing too late in this war to save his troubled Nation, and as we can read from the latest battlefield updates:
“The war between Russia and Georgia expanded on Saturday, with fighting spilling outside the Caucasus province of Ossetia, both sides moving reinforcements into the region and Georgian President Mikheil Saakhashvili declaring martial law in the country.
While the international community continued to exhort both sides to step back from the brink, the United Nations Security Council remained unable to forge a united response. The fiercest battles were in the South Ossetian city of Tskhinvali, where street fighting and artillery exchanges continued throughout the day and eyewitnesses reported city blocks reduced to rubble.
Russian forces consisting of Spetsnaz special forces infantry, and paratrooper infantry flown in from the Russian interior had captured Tskhinvali by Saturday afternoon, Georgian officials said. Aleksander Lomaia, Georgia's national security chief, in a telephone interview said Georgian forces had pulled back from the town 'unilaterally.' Lomaia estimated the Russian infantry assault force at 1,500 to 2,500 troopers.
Counts of civilian casualties varied widely, with Georgia estimating between one and two dozen killed, and some 100 injured as of Friday evening. Eduard Kokoity, South Ossetia's leader, claimed more than 1,600 civilians had died and implied thousands more had been injured.”
And, as Prime Minister Putin has just arrived in the War Region of South Ossetia, the resolve of the Worlds peace loving Nations to stop the expansion of the Western Powers though military might appears to have met its most logical first major obstacle by the awakening of a very, very angry Russian Bear from its long hibernation since the dissolution of the Soviet Empire.
Russia Orders ‘Destruction’ of US Naval Armada In Persian Gulf
I don't know anything at all about NWO Report, but from the tone of their article (propaganda), this would be something with which any anti-American would agree. Especially Obama.
Bush facing off with Putin is wonderful, but he's no Ronald Reagan, and I'm afraid this will not go well.
Blessings,
B
I'm a little skeptical of this NWO article after looking at thier home page.
You would think we would since they (Georgia) have been helping us in the war on terror. Since the president is a lame duck, I don't know if we will get involved. This probably would not have happened had NATO voted Georgia in as a member. Prayers go out to those stuck in the real "War for Oil".
MilitaryArms
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Georgia can't stand on it's own against the Soviet army for very long.
While we do have an obligation to assist Georgia, I believe that obligation ends short of us actually sending troops to help out. Weapons, money, training, etc. - yes. I would not support committing ground forces to the war.
If we did commit ground forces or even started running air sorties, we would start WWIII. We can't afford to fight this fight right now with our military so heavily committed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Even outside of the military challenge it presents, politically it would be a huge mistake for us to actively take part in this conflict.
While we do have an obligation to assist Georgia, I believe that obligation ends short of us actually sending troops to help out. Weapons, money, training, etc. - yes. I would not support committing ground forces to the war.
If we did commit ground forces or even started running air sorties, we would start WWIII. We can't afford to fight this fight right now with our military so heavily committed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Even outside of the military challenge it presents, politically it would be a huge mistake for us to actively take part in this conflict.
MilitaryArms
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This war started because Georgia wanted into NATO. Since NATO didn't vote them in (Europe being a pain in our ass yet again) and they promised them reconsideration soon... Russia (Putin) felt the time was right to steamroll Georgia to prevent their entry into NATO.
Putin is VERY against them joining NATO. He's a former KGB'er and absolutely distrusts (even hates) the West. He's the one calling the shots here, not Medvedev.
One of two things will now happen. Russia will invade and completely crush Saakashvili's government or Georgian forces will disband per the demands of Russia. I suspect even if they disband/disarm that Russia will still march on the capital and depose Saakashvili.
shotbyspike
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I was being sarcastic. I was trying to say that the EU and UN would rather talk themselves to death than actually provide any military help.
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