Senator Braun's Staff Mobile Hours -- Plan to attend

[WebSnyper]

Ok INGOers, let's go cleared hot on Senator Braun's e-mail inbox. When I say cleared hot I mean let's ARC LIGHT him! Please feel free to copy/paste/edit/change happy to glad/correct my horrible English/whatever just hit the send button.

https://www.braun.senate.gov/contact-mike

Senator Braun,
I am writing to you because I have serious concerns about for position on vital 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment issues after reading your comments on WIBC.com and in the Indy Star.

When I see a Republican Senator from Indiana saying he is “open to considering a high-capacity magazine ban” it calls my support for your election into question. You used these words referencing the (quote-unquote) “assault weapons ban of 1994” and compared it to the bump-stock ban as something easy to do. Again, when I see a Republican Senator from Indiana using the language of the left it is concerning to say the least. The words “in common use at the time for lawful purposes” should be familiar. They were in the DC v Heller decision (2008), citing US v Miller (1938) concerning rights affirmed by the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment.


Legislation passed under emotional situations is rarely logical and tends to only impact the law-abiding. The National Firearms Act of 1934 was in response to criminals such as Bonnie Parker, Clyde Barrow, and John Dillinger. The wait to take possession of a suppressor (which decreases the decibel-level of a firearm to that of a jack-hammer) is now nearly a year. The Gun Control Act of 1968 was a response to the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Guns which were banned included the iconic Walther PPK. This legislation significantly impacted the ability of poor Americans to exercise the essential right of self-defense by raising the price of firearms. In describing what would result in the renewal of the (quote-unquote) Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, a DoJ Analyst stated, “small at best and possibly too small for reliable measurement”. Again, legislation passed under emotional situations is rarely logical and tends to only impact the law-abiding. Criminals don’t obey the law.


Joe Donnelly is no longer an elected official from the State of Indiana largely because Hoosier gun owners didn’t trust him with our 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment Rights. Every reply from Senator Donnelly was six paragraphs of speaking out of both sides of his mouth without actually saying anything. His no-vote on confirming Justice Kavanagh sealed your victory; in no small part from Indiana’s gun owners paying attention to the actions of our elected officials.


Never forget where you are from, and who you represent.


Thank you,


Name
Address
Phone
e-mail

Done, took yours as a base, modified and made it my own and sent it. Thanks for posting the info. Hopefully he hears us. I made it clear I wasn't accepting anyone giving up my rights as an "appeasement strategy" and that 2A supporters had long memories and vote strongly based on these issues.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Full schedule here, thanks to KellyinAvon.

If you care about the second amendment, plan to be there. Bring your spouses, kids, brothers, sisters, parents, cousins, friends, and strangers. Well, maybe not strangers.

Let's have a strong showing and request that Senator Braun stands firm on any anti-2A bills that hit the senate floor.

You going to be at the libary tomorrow abnk?

 

[Restroyer]

Ok INGOers, let's go cleared hot on Senator Braun's e-mail inbox. When I say cleared hot I mean let's ARC LIGHT him! Please feel free to copy/paste/edit/change happy to glad/correct my horrible English/whatever just hit the send button.

https://www.braun.senate.gov/contact-mike

Senator Braun,
I am writing to you because I have serious concerns about for position on vital 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment issues after reading your comments on WIBC.com and in the Indy Star.

When I see a Republican Senator from Indiana saying he is “open to considering a high-capacity magazine ban” it calls my support for your election into question. You used these words referencing the (quote-unquote) “assault weapons ban of 1994” and compared it to the bump-stock ban as something easy to do. Again, when I see a Republican Senator from Indiana using the language of the left it is concerning to say the least. The words “in common use at the time for lawful purposes” should be familiar. They were in the DC v Heller decision (2008), citing US v Miller (1938) concerning rights affirmed by the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment.


Legislation passed under emotional situations is rarely logical and tends to only impact the law-abiding. The National Firearms Act of 1934 was in response to criminals such as Bonnie Parker, Clyde Barrow, and John Dillinger. The wait to take possession of a suppressor (which decreases the decibel-level of a firearm to that of a jack-hammer) is now nearly a year. The Gun Control Act of 1968 was a response to the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy. Guns which were banned included the iconic Walther PPK. This legislation significantly impacted the ability of poor Americans to exercise the essential right of self-defense by raising the price of firearms. In describing what would result in the renewal of the (quote-unquote) Assault Weapons Ban of 1994, a DoJ Analyst stated, “small at best and possibly too small for reliable measurement”. Again, legislation passed under emotional situations is rarely logical and tends to only impact the law-abiding. Criminals don’t obey the law.


Joe Donnelly is no longer an elected official from the State of Indiana largely because Hoosier gun owners didn’t trust him with our 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] Amendment Rights. Every reply from Senator Donnelly was six paragraphs of speaking out of both sides of his mouth without actually saying anything. His no-vote on confirming Justice Kavanagh sealed your victory; in no small part from Indiana’s gun owners paying attention to the actions of our elected officials.


Never forget where you are from, and who you represent.


Thank you,


Name
Address
Phone
e-mail

Thanks for the link. I wrote my own letter but it was similar to yours. Hope Braun gets his head out of his butt.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Thanks for the link. I wrote my own letter but it was similar to yours. Hope Braun gets his head out of his butt.

Did your letter include the phrase, “Get your head out of your butt!”??

 

[ghuns]

Did everybody else who sent him a nastygram get a nice reply that goes...

I am an avid hunter, a National Rifle Association member, and stand 100 percent in support of the Second Amendment...

I doubt he quite understands what 100% support for the 2A means to most gun owners.

 

[d.kaufman]

Did everybody else who sent him a nastygram get a nice reply that goes...





I doubt he quite understands what 100% support for the 2A means to most gun owners.

I have had no reply from any of our Congress critters or the President yet. Have sent multiple emails and hand written letters as well

EDIT. Just received the same email from Braun. What BS. "I stand 100% with the 2A but we need to strengthen background checks, add red flag laws, and not allow modifications that make them like military weapons" F U Braun!

 

[WebSnyper]

Did everybody else who sent him a nastygram get a nice reply that goes...





I doubt he quite understands what 100% support for the 2A means to most gun owners.

I have had no reply from any of our Congress critters or the President yet. Have sent multiple emails and hand written letters as well

EDIT. Just received the same email from Braun. What BS. "I stand 100% with the 2A but we need to strengthen background checks, add red flag laws, and not allow modifications that make them like military weapons" F U Braun!

Yep, got the Fudd response from Braun. I replied to it with emphasis on my points, and of course the email address that is used as the reply address doesn't exist so a reply bounces...

Delivery has failed to these recipients or groups:
Office of U.S. Senator Mike Braun (contact@braun.senate.gov)
The email address you entered couldn't be found. Please check the recipient's email address and try to resend the message. If the problem continues, please contact your helpdesk.

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His response is pure Fudd, and in my opinion worse than if he was straight up with what he believed.
He seems to see no responsibility to uphold the constitution and that is a problem.

​

 

[abnk]

Reminder for tomorrow:

Noblesville
Thursday, August 15 at 2:00 PM to 4:00 PM
Hamilton County Library East – Noblesville Branch
One Liberty Plaza
Noblesville, IN

 

[KellyinAvon]

Me and CBhausen made the trip to Anderson today. He called a bud, who brought a bud. We were only outnumbered 17-4. After action report to follow.

 

[Restroyer]

Did your letter include the phrase, “Get your head out of your butt!”?? 藍

No I used the old Army term "sack up". In my letter said quit being a weak Republican and as we say in the Army "sack up" and Protect the 2A and support the people that voted for you. I told him to quit being afraid of the Socialists and stand up for his law abiding gun owning constituents.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Here's the take-away from Anderson today: we need to email, we need to call, we need to show up. Pro-2A is always outnumbered at these things, we need to make sure our voices are heard loud and clear.

When I say outnumbered, a squadron of 2nd Generation MiGs comes across a Flight of F-22s, it's a bad day for the MiGs.

Senator Braun's regional director was herding the cats today. No Mad Mom's t-shirts in sight so we didn't know what we had. Didn't take long to figure out pro-abortion and anti-gun (mostly anti-gun) were most of what was in the room.

I did feel for the school board member from a small school who had serious issues hiring teachers and qualifying for programs that bigger schools can. She stated the issues, I wish her the best of luck.

Ban assault weapons, universal background checks and 2A doesn't protect (what it actually does) were pretty much the talking points being spouted. "90% in the country want this" was actually said and worse, believed by this bunch. CBausen's bud dropped the "what is an assault weapon?" question on them. What followed was a bunch of words that told me they collectively knew nothing about firearms. "Like the military has", there's not enough hours in the day for the required education. The mob tried to shout him down, CBhausen shouted them down with, "Let the man talk!" A bit tense at that point.

CBhausen's bud's-bud came in with the point that firearms do nothing on their own, it takes a human to take life.

To borrow CBausen's line from the trip home, "when an old guy from Indiana (mid-70s, probably being kind) sits there and spouts "UBC, AWB, it's the NRA's fault because they are the gun lobby" and advocates confiscation, this was eye-opening.

Neither of us had ever been to anything like this, had no idea of what to expect. I do better with with bullet-points to stay on-track than shooting from the hip. At this point I had an opening line and a couple things in my head, and the guy pointed at me.

(This is what I remember, it might not be word for word, or close...)
The 1st Amendment has five protections. While we we may disagree on on things we have to right to the redress of grievances to our elected officials and this is very important. Thank the Lord these rights aren't multiple choice. (Not sure who in that room other than the pro-2A got that one.)

(Referred to WIBC.com article), I have to ask, "What does enhanced background checks" mean? If it means hold officials responsible for not doing their jobs, and allowing prohibited possessors to pass a NICS check, I'm all for that.

Also, how would a federal Red Flag law work? We know this would have to be enforced at the federal level. Felons in possession of firearms can face a 10 year prison sentence, why isn't this used more to lock up violent felons who are committing so many of these crimes? I've heard talk about mental health, those adjudicated mentally deficient cannot lawfully possess firearms.

Laws passed under high emotion rarely do anything but affect the law-abiding. I've heard a lot of talk about this, "Did you know criminals can't be forced to register the firearms they are illegally possessing?" US v Haynes (1968), 5th Amendment violation.

CBhausen was up next: "I'm CBhausen from Indianapolis. I'm in opposition to anything that violates the 2nd Amendment. There's a lot of people talking about UBC's, Indiana had that for years. It was repealed because it was a feckless law!"

Not long after that we got the hell out of Dodge because we had traffic to beat.

Email, call, write, show up, Holy **** these people vote!

 

[d.kaufman]

Here's the take-away from Anderson today: we need to email, we need to call, we need to show up. Pro-2A is always outnumbered at these things, we need to make sure our voices are heard loud and clear.

When I say outnumbered, a squadron of 2nd Generation MiGs comes across a Flight of F-22s, it's a bad day for the MiGs.

Senator Braun's regional director was herding the cats today. No Mad Mom's t-shirts in sight so we didn't know what we had. Didn't take long to figure out pro-abortion and anti-gun (mostly anti-gun) were most of what was in the room.

I did feel for the school board member from a small school who had serious issues hiring teachers and qualifying for programs that bigger schools can. She stated the issues, I wish her the best of luck.

Ban assault weapons, universal background checks and 2A doesn't protect (what it actually does) were pretty much the talking points being spouted. "90% in the country want this" was actually said and worse, believed by this bunch. CBausen's bud dropped the "what is an assault weapon?" question on them. What followed was a bunch of words that told me they collectively knew nothing about firearms. "Like the military has", there's not enough hours in the day for the required education. The mob tried to shout him down, CBhausen shouted them down with, "Let the man talk!" A bit tense at that point.

CBhausen's bud's-bud came in with the point that firearms do nothing on their own, it takes a human to take life.

To borrow CBausen's line from the trip home, "when an old guy from Indiana (mid-70s, probably being kind) sits there and spouts "UBC, AWB, it's the NRA's fault because they are the gun lobby" and advocates confiscation, this was eye-opening.

Neither of us had ever been to anything like this, had no idea of what to expect. I do better with with bullet-points to stay on-track than shooting from the hip. At this point I had an opening line and a couple things in my head, and the guy pointed at me.

(This is what I remember, it might not be word for word, or close...)
The 1st Amendment has five protections. While we we may disagree on on things we have to right to the redress of grievances to our elected officials and this is very important. Thank the Lord these rights aren't multiple choice. (Not sure who in that room other than the pro-2A got that one.)

(Referred to WIBC.com article), I have to ask, "What does enhanced background checks" mean? If it means hold officials responsible for not doing their jobs, and allowing prohibited possessors to pass a NICS check, I'm all for that.

Also, how would a federal Red Flag law work? We know this would have to be enforced at the federal level. Felons in possession of firearms can face a 10 year prison sentence, why isn't this used more to lock up violent felons who are committing so many of these crimes? I've heard talk about mental health, those adjudicated mentally deficient cannot lawfully possess firearms.

Laws passed under high emotion rarely do anything but affect the law-abiding. I've heard a lot of talk about this, "Did you know criminals can't be forced to register the firearms they are illegally possessing?" US v Haynes (1968), 5th Amendment violation.

CBhausen was up next: "I'm CBhausen from Indianapolis. I'm in opposition to anything that violates the 2nd Amendment. There's a lot of people talking about UBC's, Indiana had that for years. It was repealed because it was a feckless law!"

Not long after that we got the hell out of Dodge because we had traffic to beat.

Email, call, write, show up, Holy **** these people vote!

Ive written and e-mailed all the pertinent people. Brauns response, that is posted upthread, shows his true stance is anything but pro 2a. I don't see him changing his mind either. Ive left another email with him pertaining to his blanket e-mailed response. We'll see if i get a more 1 on 1 type of response or not. Im not holding my breath

 

[abnk]

Here's the take-away from Anderson today: we need to email, we need to call, we need to show up. Pro-2A is always outnumbered at these things, we need to make sure our voices are heard loud and clear.

When I say outnumbered, a squadron of 2nd Generation MiGs comes across a Flight of F-22s, it's a bad day for the MiGs.

Senator Braun's regional director was herding the cats today. No Mad Mom's t-shirts in sight so we didn't know what we had. Didn't take long to figure out pro-abortion and anti-gun (mostly anti-gun) were most of what was in the room.

I did feel for the school board member from a small school who had serious issues hiring teachers and qualifying for programs that bigger schools can. She stated the issues, I wish her the best of luck.

Ban assault weapons, universal background checks and 2A doesn't protect (what it actually does) were pretty much the talking points being spouted. "90% in the country want this" was actually said and worse, believed by this bunch. CBausen's bud dropped the "what is an assault weapon?" question on them. What followed was a bunch of words that told me they collectively knew nothing about firearms. "Like the military has", there's not enough hours in the day for the required education. The mob tried to shout him down, CBhausen shouted them down with, "Let the man talk!" A bit tense at that point.

CBhausen's bud's-bud came in with the point that firearms do nothing on their own, it takes a human to take life.

To borrow CBausen's line from the trip home, "when an old guy from Indiana (mid-70s, probably being kind) sits there and spouts "UBC, AWB, it's the NRA's fault because they are the gun lobby" and advocates confiscation, this was eye-opening.

Neither of us had ever been to anything like this, had no idea of what to expect. I do better with with bullet-points to stay on-track than shooting from the hip. At this point I had an opening line and a couple things in my head, and the guy pointed at me.

(This is what I remember, it might not be word for word, or close...)
The 1st Amendment has five protections. While we we may disagree on on things we have to right to the redress of grievances to our elected officials and this is very important. Thank the Lord these rights aren't multiple choice. (Not sure who in that room other than the pro-2A got that one.)

(Referred to WIBC.com article), I have to ask, "What does enhanced background checks" mean? If it means hold officials responsible for not doing their jobs, and allowing prohibited possessors to pass a NICS check, I'm all for that.

Also, how would a federal Red Flag law work? We know this would have to be enforced at the federal level. Felons in possession of firearms can face a 10 year prison sentence, why isn't this used more to lock up violent felons who are committing so many of these crimes? I've heard talk about mental health, those adjudicated mentally deficient cannot lawfully possess firearms.

Laws passed under high emotion rarely do anything but affect the law-abiding. I've heard a lot of talk about this, "Did you know criminals can't be forced to register the firearms they are illegally possessing?" US v Haynes (1968), 5th Amendment violation.

CBhausen was up next: "I'm CBhausen from Indianapolis. I'm in opposition to anything that violates the 2nd Amendment. There's a lot of people talking about UBC's, Indiana had that for years. It was repealed because it was a feckless law!"

Not long after that we got the hell out of Dodge because we had traffic to beat.

Email, call, write, show up, Holy **** these people vote!

I appreciate the report. I hope a greater number of real Hoosiers show up in Noblesville tomorrow.

 

[KellyinAvon]

I appreciate the report. I hope a greater number of real Hoosiers show up in Noblesville tomorrow.

You can bet there will be a bunch of "Noblesville parents" there. That's a different bunch than we had today. It will be less confrontational, but that's not always a good thing. This bunch in Anderson made us the voice of reason who had the stats and made the reasoned argument. The Noblesville parents (based on the ones I've seen at the Statehouse) aren't emotional, it's hard to describe.

 

[Sling10mm]

What the heck... all but two are in the middle of the day, or at least are over at 4pm. Does Braun turn in at 5pm or what?

I'm sick and tired for voting against folks versus voting for someone. Absolutely sick of it.

 

[abnk]

You can bet there will be a bunch of "Noblesville parents" there. That's a different bunch than we had today. It will be less confrontational, but that's not always a good thing. This bunch in Anderson made us the voice of reason who had the stats and made the reasoned argument. The Noblesville parents (based on the ones I've seen at the Statehouse) aren't emotional, it's hard to describe.

You know, some 15 years ago, I went to the hearing when Marion County tried to ban the discharging of firearms inside county limits. There were over 200 of us, and we spoke for hours. There were zero antis. I don't know why the hell more of us aren't getting fired up for what is a much bigger deal now. If we don't bother to take two hours off of work to show up in force, maybe we do deserve to lose.

 

[cbhausen]

Folks, this ain't no drill. This is REAL and we're in for the political fight of our lives. This time around things "felt" different going in and if what KellyinAvon and I saw is representative of who has Sen. Braun's ear, things do NOT look good for 2A rights going forward.

I IMPLORE ALL OF YOU to take the time to be heard, NOW and LOUDLY. I used to think sending emails, especially those canned campaigns GOA organizes, was enough. It's clearly not after what I saw today. These folks may not know what the hell they're talking about but when did that ever stop a politician from writing new legislation.

We are on the brink of losing another piece of the 2A pie, seeing more of our rights evaporate. Due to the lawless actions of the few many law-abiding will pay the price.

KellyinAvon and I would have been THE ONLY TWO non-antis in the room had I not remembered I had a conservative friend nearby who was gracious enough to show up with a friend. They both spoke intelligently and plainly and yes, they were shouted down until I shouted over them to let my friend speak.

This stuff is more than worrisome. It's our kids' (and their kids') future at stake. Any of us can always do more but how many of us can say we truly did our part?

I'm not there yet. Are YOU?

PLEASE review the schedule and SHOW UP if you can and BE HEARD. Thank you.

 

[abnk]

cbhausen, well said, brother. If we don't fight this now, we'll leave a worse fight to our children.

 

[abnk]

Just got back. Based on what I heard about the Anderson event, I expected to see a troop of commies (troop in the monkeys sense), but there weren't many.

There was one lady who whispered something to the staffer about her ideas of how red flag laws should work. Left like a snake after seeing our large family. There was also an old piece of **** who wanted to regulate ammunition because 2A only covers guns. The staffer mostly ignored him, but wanted to know more about our family. My wife, brother, and sister-in-law represented the pro-liberty contingent. I was there for almost an hour, but not much going on. Spent a lot of time talking with the staffer, who seemed to enjoy talking with us and sort ignored the old piece of ****. Obviously, not a measure of success, but it could have been worse. Numbers-wise, it was pathetic. We should have filled the whole library.

 

[KellyinAvon]

If anybody wants to head for Zionsville on Thursday...

[h=1]Staff Mobile Office Hours[/h] United States Senator Mike Braun's staff will be in your area soon! We are here to assist you with any issues you are having with federal agencies, listen to concerns about pending or future legislation, and help address any other topics you may want to discuss.
Please see below for details:
Date: Thursday, September 12, 2019
Time: 1pm - 3pm
Location:
Hussey-Mayfield Memorial Public Library
250 N 5th Street
Zionsville, IN 46077