Sharps Model 1874 (replica)

[DoggyDaddy]

I'm pretty sure that's the same rifle, same stock nicks etc.

It is... he's being a smartass...

 

[NKBJ]

45-70 is one of the easiest cartridges to load, shoot, hunt and hit with. And they're plumb cool too.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

45-70 is one of the easiest cartridges to load, shoot, hunt and hit with. And they're plumb cool too.

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Do you use smokeless or black powder?

 

[Clay Pigeon]

Is the rifle stamped " Black Powder Only" ?
If not you are safe to shoot the middle loads without a care in the world. If this was a modern Browning / Winchester Highwall or a Browning 1886 lever you can shoot the high pressure loads in them.
You could always send a email to the importer or the manufacturer and ask.

 

[AGarbers]

Do you use smokeless or black powder?

Either as long you use the loadings for single shot rifles such as this. There are entire websites just about these rifles. According to the shooters, the Sharps is truly in its element when using BP or a substitute like APP.

 

[NKBJ]

Do you use smokeless or black powder?

That's one of my bro's hunting loads.
Smokeless (1800FPS) and 500 grains straight soft lead, 25% rag content onion skin paper.
Cuts cloverleafs at a hundred.
I keep telling him he's gonna give himself shaken baby syndrome.

The 45-70 loads I shot in the rolling block was the old Lyman 500 grain #457125 plain base round nose with black or pyrodex.
They'd shove you around a little but not bounce you like the bobble head in a hot rod's rear window.

 

[indy1919a4]

That is pretty funny. The pawnshop does not know what a High Wall is. Check this out.

https://www.cimarron-firearms.com/products/long-guns/single-shot-rifles-1.html

Crap, there goes my faith in the Internet.. What you are saying is some poor schmuck could have bought this thinking it was a high wall.. Man life in the digital age...

 

[ru44mag]

Crap, there goes my faith in the Internet.. What you are saying is some poor schmuck could have bought this thinking it was a high wall.. Man life in the digital age...

I'm pretty sure the guy that bought it knew what he was buying, and is so pleased with it, he is showing it off.

 

[indy1919a4]

I'm pretty sure the guy that bought it knew what he was buying, and is so pleased with it, he is showing it off.

Sir, you would be surprised, I could tell you things that would turn your hair white

 

[ru44mag]

Sir, you would be surprised, I could tell you things that would turn your hair white

I have been known to be quite slow sometimes.


I kept wondering why no one else was saying anything.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

Is the rifle stamped " Black Powder Only" ?
If not you are safe to shoot the middle loads without a care in the world. If this was a modern Browning / Winchester Highwall or a Browning 1886 lever you can shoot the high pressure loads in them.
You could always send a email to the importer or the manufacturer and ask.

No black powder only stamp. I will definitely go with the milder loads though. I've grown rather partial to my hands and the side of my face!

 

[DoggyDaddy]

That's one of my bro's hunting loads.
Smokeless (1800FPS) and 500 grains straight soft lead, 25% rag content onion skin paper.
Cuts cloverleafs at a hundred.
I keep telling him he's gonna give himself shaken baby syndrome.

The 45-70 loads I shot in the rolling block was the old Lyman 500 grain #457125 plain base round nose with black or pyrodex.
They'd shove you around a little but not bounce you like the bobble head in a hot rod's rear window.

I've seen "paper patch" mentioned in some of my reading, but thought maybe it was just for the black powder loads. Is that required with smokeless? I know Hodgdon doesn't mention anything about it on their load data site. Is it just for filler since it's such a large case?

 

[DoggyDaddy]

I have been known to be quite slow sometimes.


I kept wondering why no one else was saying anything.

No worries. Indy1919a4 actually was the one that let me know it was listed wrong. This was my first foray into these types of rifles so I was pretty clueless. I couldn't figure out why, when I googled High Walls, the rifles all looked different than this one!

 

[indy1919a4]

No worries. Indy1919a4 actually was the one that let me know it was listed wrong. This was my first foray into these types of rifles so I was pretty clueless. I couldn't figure out why, when I googled High Walls, the rifles all looked different than this one!

Hey man do not cut your self down.. You knew which end of the muzzle the bullet goes out of, that puts you head and shoulders above most...

 

[ru44mag]

No worries. Indy1919a4 actually was the one that let me know it was listed wrong. This was my first foray into these types of rifles so I was pretty clueless. I couldn't figure out why, when I googled High Walls, the rifles all looked different than this one!

Thanks. Congrats on your find, and enjoy. Maybe one day I will get one like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g_BAQoVLtI

 

[indy1919a4]

Thanks. Congrats on your find, and enjoy. Maybe one day I will get one like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g_BAQoVLtI

Oh Man you do not want a High Wall.... You want a Sharps or a Trapdoor.. With a Sharps you can help clear the plains of Buffalo, and a trap door you can ride with Custer to
the Little Big Horn...With a High Wall all you will get is a beautiful, finely designed, well made John Browning designed rifle... Geez what fun will that be...

 

[Thor]

The part in bold is not quite correct, free ranging, huntable herds are very, very limited but they do exist. South Dakota, Utah, Arizona, and Alaska all have lottery drawings for free ranging bison tags. Some of those bison herds roam larger areas than others, most have very long draw odds, and all are pretty pricey. Mexico and Canada have free ranging bison herds as well.

Well...to reiterate: a: buy local, support local farms and b: when they hand you 800lbs of meat a head and a hide you're much closer to home.

 

[two70]

Well...to reiterate: a: buy local, support local farms and b: when they hand you 800lbs of meat a head and a hide you're much closer to home.

I'm confused, what does either have to do with that fact that there are indeed still free roaming herds of buffalo that can be hunted?

I'm sure one could find a farmer nearby that would sell one a cow and let him dispatch it with whatever one wanted, if buying local and procuring meat as easily as possible were the only goals. One might not get the full 800 lbs. but it would be better meat and the amount of hunting would be about the same.

 

[ru44mag]

Oh Man you do not want a High Wall.... You want a Sharps or a Trapdoor.. With a Sharps you can help clear the plains of Buffalo, and a trap door you can ride with Custer to
the Little Big Horn...With at High Wall all you will get is a beautiful, finely designed, well made John Browning designed rifle... Geez what fun will that be...

I just can't figure it out, for some reason I tend to gravitate towards stuff designed by John Browning.

 

[Thor]

I'm confused, what does either have to do with that fact that there are indeed still free roaming herds of buffalo that can be hunted?

I'm sure one could find a farmer nearby that would sell one a cow and let him dispatch it with whatever one wanted, if buying local and procuring meat as easily as possible were the only goals. One might not get the full 800 lbs. but it would be better meat and the amount of hunting would be about the same.

Actually, I was thinking of supporting the continued commercial viability of bison as much as possible (in America) with the time I have before I retire. I've looked at some of the hunts in the places you mention and many do require you to step out of the truck and shoot the animal. Spending a few extra hours bouncing around doesn't appeal to me at this point in time.