Shooting the Draco SBR, this little thing rocks

[MilitaryArms]

Form 1 completed today, finger prints and CLEO sign off in the extremely near future!!! Draco SBR here I come!

You're so going to send me a Christmas card this year... you're going to love that thing.

We need to organize an SBR shoot.

 

[Fordtough25]

Dang I want one of those now!! Nice video for sure, that's a real nice ak!

 

[Stainer]

You're so going to send me a Christmas card this year... you're going to love that thing.

We need to organize an SBR shoot.

Sure let's just set it up for about 3 months out!

 

[rugertoter]

I was under the impression that adding a stock to a "pistol" type weapon was against the law. I know I have read that in gun magazines before. So, is this legal or not?

 

[esrice]

I was under the impression that adding a stock to a "pistol" type weapon was against the law. I know I have read that in gun magazines before. So, is this legal or not?

It is illegal. UNLESS you file the proper paperwork with the ATF, and pay them a special $200 tax.

The OP has completed this process, therefore his configuration is legal.

 

[hotfarmboy1]

Ok now I'm wanting an SBR even more! And this route is very very tempting since I still have over 1k rounds of 7.62 and nothing to shoot it

 

[Slow Hand]

What's your OAL on that thing now?

This is what the rifle looks like right now.

US Palm Battle Grip
Midwest Industries / US Palm rail system
Magpul AFG grip
Vortex SPARC with dedicated US Palm rail upper
ACE side folding stock

Next up I will Duracoat the rifle and do a video on that whole process. It's on my to-do list for this summer.

 

[dom1104]

I would also like to know the OAL with stock folded and without.

 

[MilitaryArms]

OAL Stock Extended: 31.5"
OAL Stock Folded: 22.25"

That's with a 7.5" ACE stock with the rubber butt pad installed (comes with stock but installation is optional).

 

[dom1104]

OAL Stock Extended: 31.5"
OAL Stock Folded: 22.25"

That's with a 7.5" ACE stock with the rubber butt pad installed (comes with stock but installation is optional).

great. thats about what I figured it would be.

For giggles, here are some comparison OAL numbers.

M4: Stock extended = 33in
M4: Stock retracted = 29in
MK18 AR SBR: 25in
m16: 39in
AK47: w/ Nato length buttstock = 35in
AK47: w/ Warsaw length buttstock = 34in
AK74: w/ Warsaw 37in
Krinkov AK folded: 21in


Thanks for the info !

 

[SynnerG]

So what was the final verdict on if you had to still make the 922 compliant changes to an SBR or it already being a Class 3 cover it? Or is one of those things where people still prefer changing out the parts regarless because US parts are just better? (I've never gone thru the 922 process before, so I'm just making guesses here) Wouldn't it just be then ordering a Draco and then installing the swinging stock, filling the paper work and bam, SBR? I'm interested in this build so just wanted to work out all the details before thinking about starting it.

 

[printcraft]

So what was the final verdict on if you had to still make the 922 compliant changes to an SBR or it already being a Class 3 cover it? Wouldn't it just be then ordering a Draco and then installing the swinging stock, filling the paper work and bam, SBR? I'm interested in this build so just wanted to work out all the details before thinking about starting it.

Don't install that stock until you get your paperwork back.

 

[SynnerG]

Oh right, I guess it's get the Draco and then do the paper work, then if approved, add the stock. I've never done anything in the Class 3 world except a suppressor so far, so lots of this is still new, untraveled country for me, so I might say some incorrect stuff, haha.

 

[seanamus]

whats up with the rust on the bottom on the muzzle area? are the Dracos made new or are the parts kit? after seeing this i really want the SBR with under folder and a silencer oh god just thinking about it

 

[abrumlev]

Great lookin AK.

Question...was at a Pawn shop the other day and there was a romanian ak underfolder. Does this require any Class III dealings to purchase or is it your typical rifle purchase?

 

[Shooter1]

I called the ATF again 922 doesnt apply to a pistol and does not apply to a SBR. I will have pictures posted of mine later tonight.

 

[SynnerG]

Awesome to hear! I'll put some more thought and research into this project then.

I called the ATF again 922 doesnt apply to a pistol and does not apply to a SBR. I will have pictures posted of mine later tonight.

 

[geronimojoe85]

I think it's funny how some just don't get it.
I've heard on other threads and other forums around the interwebs that "it's just 4 inches" (that's not what your mother said).

4 inches makes alot of difference when working around vehicles and buildings. 4 inches is the difference between a "rifle" length and "carbine" length AR. It changes the feel of the weapon making it much easier to handle.

Plus this is probably the cheapest way to go for a rock solid reliable SBR.

Just the facts

As far as practical purposes go its a range toy, but then again most guns are.

 

[techres]

I think it's funny how some just don't get it.
I've heard on other threads and other forums around the interwebs that "it's just 4 inches" (that's not what your mother said).

4 inches makes alot of difference when working around vehicles and buildings. 4 inches is the difference between a "rifle" length and "carbine" length AR. It changes the feel of the weapon making it much easier to handle.

Plus this is probably the cheapest way to go for a rock solid reliable SBR.

Just the facts

As far as practical purposes go its a range toy, but then again most guns are.

It can be a big difference:

 

[Shooter1]

I will pay 200.00 all day to short barrel a draco this is a awesome gun.