Shot a Glock 19 for the first time.

[Trigger Time]

I wouldn't go up against CM's 1911, or Allen M's 1911's .....

JMHO, YMMV .....

BUT, I want to be there, and SEE it myself !!!!!

Ive shot both and both have very nice 1911's.
And this is where i will offer a concession about the 1911. IF tgeynwere fine tuned and highly modified, I believe it is possible for a 1911 to be reliable. But average factory stock, nope.
And I'm not talking about a Wilson combat or ed Bauer ECT when j say factory

 

[Trigger Time]

WE, could throw a couple of CZ's in to the mix .....

I like cz's. Their new ones are copies of glocks though just like everyone else. The glock mechanisms work. I'll agree they aren't the most comfortable gun for everyone. I've said before my old m&p was much more ergonomic

 

[mcapo]

I told myself I wouldn't read past the first page once I saw this threads direction. Darn it....

Makes me think of those various Hi-Point youtube video in which they torture test it and it runs flawlessly. Demolition Ranch comes to mind.

Seems like with some quality control exceptions - most guns run pretty good today.

The REAL discussion is revolver vs semi-auto. LOL!!

 

[Trigger Time]

I told myself I wouldn't read past the first page once I saw this threads direction. Darn it....

Makes me think of those various Hi-Point youtube video in which they torture test it and it runs flawlessly. Demolition Ranch comes to mind.

Seems like with some quality control exceptions - most guns run pretty good today.

The REAL discussion is revolver vs semi-auto. LOL!!

Well since you mentioned it, revolvers suck as self defense tools because it doesn't take a lot to render them useless and then you're ****ed

 

[1775usmarine]

We all know its all about the 4506's, 5906's, 6906's, 3913's, CS's 9/45 and 1006's.

 

[Ggreen]

Well since you mentioned it, revolvers suck as self defense tools because it doesn't take a lot to render them useless and then you're ****ed

I've watched probably 20+ hours of surveillance videos over the past few months of shootouts. Unless a shotgun is employed 6 rounds rarely seemed like enough. Not to mention that revolvers are bulky, heavy, unwieldy, and antiquated. I like them, I won't carry one. If I had a gas station and a static place to keep my piece, maybe a 500, 460, or a 454... but if I had room for that I'd rather have an 18" 12ga.

 

[Trigger Time]

I've watched probably 20+ hours of surveillance videos over the past few months of shootouts. Unless a shotgun is employed 6 rounds rarely seemed like enough. Not to mention that revolvers are bulky, heavy, unwieldy, and antiquated. I like them, I won't carry one. If I had a gas station and a static place to keep my piece, maybe a 500, 460, or a 454... but if I had room for that I'd rather have an 18" 12ga.

Yeah, I love a good revolver too just not for defense. For me anymore if wont own it for defense then I just don't own it. With the exception to sentimental guns which I'll never sell

 

[croy]

They are all just machines made/assembled by people. They all fail at one time or another for any one of many reasons from internal issues Mag related and ammo problems. Anybody that says they do not has not shot them a lot.
Just machines folks. Some are prettier than others but still machines all the same.

Glocks are crafted by Austrian elves

 

[IndyGlockMan]

Now you need to go try out the new Glock 19 gen 5.
I think i'm buying one tomorrow.

 

[Trigger Time]

Now you need to go try out the new Glock 19 gen 5.
I think i'm buying one tomorrow.

I would highly encourage it. Best glock to date. The improvements are noticeable.

 

[jamil]

Well. Maybe 5th time's the charm. I see they kept the odd grip angle and the ****ty sights. Does it still have the oatmeal paddle trigger?

 

[churchmouse]

So as not to get to involved in the G/1911 discussions I can only say that if it fits your hand.....you feel comfortable with it......it runs well for you......you train with it and not just 2 times to the range right after you bought it and now you are an operator........run it.
Get the "Proper" spare mags for it. Get the right SD ammo for it and make sure it will eat it. Practice with it until muscle memory is well established with it.
Get a "GOOD" holster. What ever style/brand get a good one.

"It" can be a G**** or a 1911 or a SIG or a S&W etc and so on.
Know your sidearm. Understand it completely.

 

[Expat]

If I buy a Gen 5 will it upgrade my operator status to tier 3? That has been my goal for awhile.

 

[churchmouse]

If I buy a Gen 5 will it upgrade my operator status to tier 3? That has been my goal for awhile.

Does this advancement happen just from the purchase...

 

[Expat]

Does this advancement happen just from the purchase...

You have to read this in a teenage girl voice: Well Yeah, duh....

 

[jamil]

So as not to get to involved in the G/1911 discussions I can only say that if it fits your hand.....you feel comfortable with it......it runs well for you......you train with it and not just 2 times to the range right after you bought it and now you are an operator........run it.
Get the "Proper" spare mags for it. Get the right SD ammo for it and make sure it will eat it. Practice with it until muscle memory is well established with it.
Get a "GOOD" holster. What ever style/brand get a good one.

"It" can be a G**** or a 1911 or a SIG or a S&W etc and so on.
Know your sidearm. Understand it completely.

I hope no one takes the G**** bashing seriously. If that's the gun that works for you, then have at it. I'm not a Glock hater. But I do enjoy the nonserious side of poking harmless fun at the faithful. I've wanted to like them, but they just don't do it for me.

Glock is to guns as Amy Schumer is to women.

If I buy a Gen 5 will it upgrade my operator status to tier 3? That has been my goal for awhile.

Depends on how you accessorize it.

 

[Expat]

Depends on how you accessorize it.

Like a pretty new purse... errr, I mean tactical bag?

 

[jamil]

Like a pretty new purse... errr, I mean tactical bag?

You have to consider the rail. Don't let it just sit there unoccupied. And you have to replace the sights. First thing. Every Glock. Replace the sites with something gnarly tacticool. Like a big dot.

 

[churchmouse]

I hope no one takes the G**** bashing seriously. If that's the gun that works for you, then have at it. I'm not a Glock hater. But I do enjoy the nonserious side of poking harmless fun at the faithful. I've wanted to like them, but they just don't do it for me.

Glock is to guns as Amy Schumer is to women.



Depends on how you accessorize it.

Love the Amy reference. I have always referred to them in this manner. But now I can put a name to the reference.

 

[Birds Away]

I hope no one takes the G**** bashing seriously. If that's the gun that works for you, then have at it. I'm not a Glock hater. But I do enjoy the nonserious side of poking harmless fun at the faithful. I've wanted to like them, but they just don't do it for me.

Glock is to guns as Amy Schumer is to women.

Yes, yes and yes.