Stretching out the .22lr - is 200yd and over possible

[johntheplinker]

very true. I found CCI Standard Velocity to have that consistency in my 10/22 and my Mark IV. I tried several others but never had the results as I did cci. Aguila is just plain dirty and inconsistent. I got a lot of jams with them. Wildcat, couldn’t even shoot a mag without some sort of issue. Federal was pretty good and what I shot before trying to go farther than 50yds. But just not consistent enough for longer distances. Eele is just too expensive.

Actually I've found CCI SV to not be much better than Aguila, Minimags, or any other mass produced ammo. To get real consistency look to Europe for the source, like Eley, SK, and Lapua. Even their lower end offerings are more consistent than about anything made this side of the ocean. At 50-75 yds there may not be much difference accuracy-wise, but once you get out past 100, there is a definite difference. With my T1x I get consistent 2" groups at 150 using SK Standard+ and Rifle Match; and Eley Action and Club. I haven't shot any of the super expensive like TenX or Midas, as I've set a hard limit on ammo cost.

 

[Triton]

Just to add this in.... when I started Shooting anything more than plinking at golf balls or empty shotgun shells is when I bought a 10/22 and made it a bench gun rather than traditional shoulder like I grew up with.

I Put on a bipod, bought a Nikon P-Rimfire 3x9x50. A cheap rural king bench bag set (5lb bag of dry beans is extra) and a $5 moving blanket from Harbor Freight. Bought ammo by the 500 brick so I could really get a feel for how it worked in that particular rifle.

The iPhone app for the Nikon scope was fantastic. I had never seen or dealt with ballistics but this app simplified it enough to where I was able to sight it in at 50 and learn where I need to aim to hit something at 75. Next I went to 100 from a zero at 50.

I was hooked at that point. That’s when I started narrowing down my ammo, upgraded some parts (BX trigger, Volquartsen extractor, better bipod, etc.) and started reading up on how to use a scope and what this MOA really means.

 

[Triton]

At 50-75 yds there may not be much difference accuracy-wise, but once you get out past 100, there is a definite difference. With my T1x I get consistent 2" groups at 150 using SK Standard+ and Rifle Match; and Eley Action and Club.

interesting. I will have to give one of those a try. I do find it frustrating when shooting at 200 because there are time I know the shot was true but it was way off. You can see the round as it comes off it’s arc at that distance with the scope. At that distance you have a ton of deviation if there’s a imperfection.

 

[johntheplinker]

One more thing to add. If you're considering getting really serious in long range .22 shooting, RimfireCentral.com has a forum set up just for 200 yd+ shooting. Lots of tips and tricks from some really serious LR shooters.

 

[doddg]

Now that we're talking about it I do remember setting up a 6" plate at 200 yards last summer and ringing it regularly that day. Must be an HHRP thing. My data indicates ~24 MOA holdover with my Kidd "10/22" and SK Long Range Match ammo.

That combination has done this at 50 and 100 yards...

I'm going to have to put it on paper at 200.

Pure entertainment!

 

[DadSmith]

Now that we're talking about it I do remember setting up a 6" plate at 200 yards last summer and ringing it regularly that day. Must be an HHRP thing. My data indicates ~24 MOA holdover with my Kidd "10/22" and SK Long Range Match ammo.

That combination has done this at 50 and 100 yards...

I'm going to have to put it on paper at 200.

Wow so this is what an upgraded 10/22 can do. That's very accurate for 100yds my stock 10/22 slim barrel with Eley force groups at 50 0.673 10 shot group. Your rifle does that at 100yds.

It would be great to see how it does at 200 yards. If you get the chance to hit paper out that far sometime.

 

[gmcttr]

Wow so this is what an upgraded 10/22 can do...

It is a Kidd barreled action and trigger group in a Victor Titan stock with a Vortex Diamondback 4x16 FFP scope. The only Ruger Parts are the mags.

 

[doddg]

It is a Kidd barreled action and trigger group in a Victor Titan stock with a Vortex Diamondback 4x16 FFP scope. The only Ruger Parts are the mags.

I have really enjoyed watching your journey with precision rifle shooting.
Anything 50 yds. or above is precision shooting to someone trapped at 25 yds.
My 10/22 has an upgraded trigger (couldn't help myself) & the RPR has a Green Mountain barrel.
Both bought from the same member who I have bought his "leftovers" for years now as he moves up the ladder, mostly with handguns.
We'll see if it does any good with my eyes & bad habits.
I can't wait to find out where the limitations are & whether I'll be staying at 50 yds. or trying to find my place at 100 yds. or somewhere between.
Shooting steel at 100 yds. should be less depressing than paper targets.

Keep those targets coming!
I can't even get the "one-hole" going yet at any distance.

 

[DadSmith]

I have really enjoyed watching your journey with precision rifle shooting.
Anything 50 yds. or above is precision shooting to someone trapped at 25 yds.
My 10/22 has an upgraded trigger (couldn't help myself) & the RPR has a Green Mountain barrel.
Both bought from the same member who I have bought his "leftovers" for years now as he moves up the ladder, mostly with handguns.
We'll see if it does any good with my eyes & bad habits.
I can't wait to find out where the limitations are & whether I'll be staying at 50 yds. or trying to find my place at 100 yds. or somewhere between.
Shooting steel at 100 yds. should be less depressing than paper targets.

Keep those targets coming!
I can't even get the "one-hole" going yet at any distance.

How many different ammo types and brands have you tested for your rifles? It could be as simple as finding the right ammo for your rifles. I've tried so far 12 different offerings from multiple companies. My finicky 10/22 likes CCI Quik Shok, and Eley force the best. Agulia Super Extra 40gr comes in 3rd so far. I just picked up 3 different offerings yesterday to test.

 

[doddg]

How many different ammo types and brands have you tested for your rifles?
It could be as simple as finding the right ammo for your rifles.
I've tried so far 12 different offerings from multiple companies.
My finicky 10/22 likes CCI Quik Shok, and Eley force the best.
Agulia Super Extra 40gr comes in 3rd so far. I just picked up 3 different offerings yesterday to test.

Not many brands, mostly just used CCI SV.
I found this pic using the CCI SV & CCI Blazer & Winchester.
The Blazer acquitted itself as good as the CCI SV.
But, it was only 50'.
B/C of the distance being so short, this pic doesn't tell me much about the ammo.

Comparing the RPR with the 10/22 using just CCI at only 50'.

 

[DadSmith]

Not many brands, mostly just used CCI SV.
I found this pic using the CCI SV & CCI Blazer & Winchester.
The Blazer acquitted itself as good as the CCI SV.
But, it was only 50'.
B/C of the distance being so short, this pic doesn't tell me much about the ammo.

Comparing the RPR with the 10/22 using just CCI at only 50'.

Looks pretty good. I doubt a squirrel or rabbit walks away from you at 50 yards or even 100 yards.

 

[Hawkeye7br]

22 Long Range Rifle at RCC

This.
We're under the Shooting Sports thread on this forum. Don't be the guy that spends all his time "practicing" at 50 yards and never tries an event with other shooters. We rotate format of the match each month, the targets get farther as your skill improves. This month, everyone shoots 110, 165, and 200 yards.

 

[doddg]

Looks pretty good. I doubt a squirrel or rabbit walks away from you at 50 yards or even 100 yards.

By this time next month we'll know the truth: good, bad, ugly or embarrassing.
Can't wait to shoot & take pics of the 1st offerings.
Hopefully, I'll get better when I learn about breathing, how to properly hold & pull a trigger & things I've only read about.
Someone like gmcttr could teach me alot since he's been down this path hot & heavy the past year or two, maybe more.
We've gotten together before, so maybe again.

 

[DadSmith]

By this time next month we'll know the truth: good, bad, ugly or embarrassing.
Can't wait to shoot & take pics of the 1st offerings.
Hopefully, I'll get better when I learn about breathing, how to properly hold & pull a trigger & things I've only read about.
Someone like gmcttr could teach me alot since he's been down this path hot & heavy the past year or two, maybe more.
We've gotten together before, so maybe again.

If you can dry fire your rifles you can practice breathing, holding breath, and trigger pull at home. Do they make snap caps for 22lr? If so that might be an option for practice.

 

[zachcz]

I use small wall anchors. Forget exact size but fit perfect. Typically the ones I get are yellow Not sure if size and color coordinate

If you can dry fire your rifles you can practice breathing, holding breath, and trigger pull at home. Do they make snap caps for 22lr? If so that might be an option for practice.

 

[DadSmith]

I use small wall anchors. Forget exact size but fit perfect. Typically the ones I get are yellow Not sure if size and color coordinate

Thanks for the heads up. I just searched for what you are talking about. They say use #4-6 7/8" plastic anchors. I'll have to give that a try.

 

[zachcz]

they work great. Probably can get a life time supply for what a small pack of snap caps would cost

Thanks for the heads up. I just searched for what you are talking about. They say use #4-6 7/8" plastic anchors. I'll have to give that a try.

 

[gmcttr]

By this time next month we'll know the truth: good, bad, ugly or embarrassing...

Most (all?) outdoor ranges of 50 yards or more are going to have solid benches to shoot from where you can use good front and rear support under the rifle. This will help a vast amount over indoor ranges where I'm guessing that at best you are resting the front of the rifle on a bag without rear support.

 

[doddg]

Most (all?) outdoor ranges of 50 yards or more are going to have solid benches to shoot from where you can use good front and rear support under the rifle.
This will help a vast amount over indoor ranges where I'm guessing that at best you are resting the front of the rifle on a bag without rear support.

What? Sounds like you've done this before!
You are so right & I hadn't thought of that!
Last year, I was getting some tips from a member who was helping me sight in my scopes & figure out what I needed for stock configuration out at MCF&G, but I don't remember using a support for the back of the rifle.
I might gain 1/4" better groups.

 

[DadSmith]

What? Sounds like you've done this before!
You are so right & I hadn't thought of that!
Last year, I was getting some tips from a member who was helping me sight in my scopes & figure out what I needed for stock configuration out at MCF&G, but I don't remember using a support for the back of the rifle.
I might gain 1/4" better groups.

Where do you go for your outdoor range?