Stretching out the .22lr - is 200yd and over possible

[anvil]

I have heard that when a .22 hi speed slows down to the sub sonic level at long range,, there can be a bit of wobble ---that is the reason to use standard velocity to begin with

 

[42769vette]

I have heard that when a .22 hi speed slows down to the sub sonic level at long range,, there can be a bit of wobble ---that is the reason to use standard velocity to begin with

That is the reason to use subsonic. Standard velocity is above the speed of sound (out of a rifle) so you will still get the wobble.

 

[Jaybird1980]

She was holding a rifle?!

Eggzactly, she was holding a rifle! Not on a bench, freaking offhand!
Even with that top of the line equipment it is still an amazing feat!

 

[flylo]

Std vel is NOT above the speed of sound. I shoot many brands CCI, Aguila, TAC22, Geco all std vel & all below the sound barrier! CCI is 1080 fps as is Aguila but it says 1120 on the box but has never chonoed even 1100.

 

[DadSmith]

While we are talking long range 22lr shooting. I could have sworn there was going to be a new 22lr ammo out that was iirc a solid copper bullet. I remember reading about it at shot show not sure what year. Does anyone remember anything about that? I also recall it was going to be expensive. Is it out yet?

 

[flylo]

It's available most anywhere. Here's a review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyuVEexAXaw

25 & 300 yards with CCI mini Mag,This will soprise you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DzLQGv-w5M

The military claimed a bullet that passes thru a 1/2" pine board is lethal. A Std Vel (sub sonic) will do that at 440 yards.

 

[42769vette]

Std vel is NOT above the speed of sound. I shoot many brands CCI, Aguila, TAC22, Geco all std vel & all below the sound barrier! CCI is 1080 fps as is Aguila but it says 1120 on the box but has never chonoed even 1100.

You are correct. I never looked up the actual speed, but some standard velocity is below the speed of sound. Speed of sound depends on lost of factor's, but here in Indiana at 600 feet elevation, its typically around 1090 FPS. This is the reason the industry came up with names to define speed. Sub sonic (IE below sonic) standard velocity (IE average velocity) High velocity (meaning as fast as possible). I didnt know some companies were now blurring those lines. They could have been doing it all along, had I known they were I might have looked at some standard velocity ammo's more often. Thanks for the heads up. My go to LR rimfire ammo is wolf match which runs 1050-1060

 

[JHB]

While we are talking long range 22lr shooting. I could have sworn there was going to be a new 22lr ammo out that was iirc a solid copper bullet. I remember reading about it at shot show not sure what year. Does anyone remember anything about that? I also recall it was going to be expensive. Is it out yet?

It is out but I don't remember who produced it. There is a few threads about it on Rimfire Central.com What I do remember was the groups were more like whet you get from a shotgun. Accuracy was terrible.

 

[Areoflyer09]

While we are talking long range 22lr shooting. I could have sworn there was going to be a new 22lr ammo out that was iirc a solid copper bullet. I remember reading about it at shot show not sure what year. Does anyone remember anything about that? I also recall it was going to be expensive. Is it out yet?

Cutting Edge Bullets may be who you are thinking of from earlier this year. I haven’t seen them for sale yet.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...ts-22-lr-elr-ammo-with-solid-spitzer-bullets/

 

[JHB]

I think he is talking about the powder metal ones (copper powder) that a major manufacturer brought out . I am thinking they were to conform to the California lead bullet ban.

Is this what you are talking about. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/953365521

 

[flylo]

You are correct. I never looked up the actual speed, but some standard velocity is below the speed of sound. Speed of sound depends on lost of factor's, but here in Indiana at 600 feet elevation, its typically around 1090 FPS. This is the reason the industry came up with names to define speed. Sub sonic (IE below sonic) standard velocity (IE average velocity) High velocity (meaning as fast as possible). I didnt know some companies were now blurring those lines. They could have been doing it all along, had I known they were I might have looked at some standard velocity ammo's more often. Thanks for the heads up. My go to LR rimfire ammo is wolf match which runs 1050-1060

Wolf changed makers ftom made in Germay to England I heard so I don't know if it's now better or worse but it was really good ammo for the money. Let us know & here's a link to a Wolf users comments https://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf...tch-target-40-grain-lead-solid-ammo-made-eley

 

[42769vette]

Wolf changed makers ftom made in Germay to England I heard so I don't know if it's now better or worse but it was really good ammo for the money. Let us know & here's a link to a Wolf users comments https://www.sgammo.com/product/wolf...tch-target-40-grain-lead-solid-ammo-made-eley

I bought 100k rounds when I was serious about it. I bet I havent done LR rimfire in 3 years, so I still have 20k +/- left and havent followed the changes.

 

[Areoflyer09]

I think he is talking about the powder metal ones (copper powder) that a major manufacturer brought out . I am thinking they were to conform to the California lead bullet ban.

Is this what you are talking about. https://www.midwayusa.com/product/953365521

I wouldn’t consider there to be a “solid copper”, it’s a copper polymer mix to comply with the lead free rules. Not really designed for long distance shooting.

The Cutting Edge Bullets shown at Shot Show this year are a machined monolithic copper bullet and designed with the idea of being more ballistically efficient when flying, specifically for long ranger distances.

 

[JHB]

The problem is most people wouldn't know the difference between solid copper and powdered copper. A lot of people think a Penny is still made from copper.

 

[Gabriel]

The problem is most people wouldn't know the difference between solid copper and powdered copper. A lot of people think a Penny is still made from copper.

They still make pennies?

 

[JHB]

Yup I am old fashioned I still use cash

 

[DadSmith]

Cutting Edge Bullets may be who you are thinking of from earlier this year. I haven’t seen them for sale yet.

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog...ts-22-lr-elr-ammo-with-solid-spitzer-bullets/

Yep those are the ones.

 

[Areoflyer09]

Yep those are the ones.

Sadly, I’ve not heard anything else about them since Shot.

 

[Triton]

. Check it a against a plumb Bob @ 50 or 100 yards

thanks for the link, I’ll check it out tonight.

pardon my ignorance, but what is a plum bob?

 

[actaeon277]

thanks for the link, I’ll check it out tonight.

pardon my ignorance, but what is a plum bob?

basically, a weight hanging on a string.