Students Suspended for Legally Shooting Guns at Gun Range

[luger fan]

Anyone that posts pictures ANYWHERE gets what he deserves.

 

[churchmouse]

The schools are being used in this agenda just like the courts. This idiocy has been coming for a long long time.

 

[chipbennett]

Anyone that posts pictures ANYWHERE gets what he deserves.

And what, pray tell, does someone participating in a lawful behavior "deserve" for posting pictures of said, lawful behavior?

 

[Dr.Midnight]

Anyone that posts pictures ANYWHERE gets what he deserves.

 

[churchmouse]

And what, pray tell, does someone participating in a lawful behavior "deserve" for posting pictures of said, lawful behavior?

Exactly. Do we now have to go deep underground. My 11 year old G-daughter is around firearms everyday. She owns one. This is the summer I will hand her off to the 2 men I trust to train her. She knows she can not openly talk about this at school and man this **** is just ****ing "WRONG"
It Pi$$es me off to a very high level. The indoctrination taking place in the schools right now will not be overcome once these brainwashed kids get to vote. And we are paying for our own demise. Ridiculous. But it is by design.

Far to many heads buried in the sand.

 

[Jludo]

Curious what the opinion would be if it came out that the student had a reputation in school as most likely to be a school shooter like in Florida.

 

[churchmouse]

Curious what the opinion would be if it came out that the student had a reputation in school as most likely to be a school shooter like in Florida.

That would change the discussion but if so it should be so noted I would hope.

 

[BugI02]

Exactly. Do we now have to go deep underground. My 11 year old G-daughter is around firearms everyday. She owns one. This is the summer I will hand her off to the 2 men I trust to train her. She knows she can not openly talk about this at school and man this **** is just ****ing "WRONG"
It Pi$$es me off to a very high level. The indoctrination taking place in the schools right now will not be overcome once these brainwashed kids get to vote. And we are paying for our own demise. Ridiculous. But it is by design.

Far to many heads buried in the sand.

Sadly, "The first rule of Gunowners Club is we don't talk about Gunowners Club"

 

[chipbennett]

Curious what the opinion would be if it came out that the student had a reputation in school as most likely to be a school shooter like in Florida.

That's what due process is for. The courts handle due process, not the schools. So, from the school's perspective, it changes nothing at all.

 

[Jludo]

That would change the discussion but if so it should be so noted I would hope.

I'm not sure where anyone would be able to disclose rumors in a high school about students. Its likely what it seems on the face of it just curious if that extra detail would change anyone's mind.

 

[4651feeder]

Curious what the opinion would be if it came out that the student had a reputation in school as most likely to be a school shooter like in Florida.

My opinion on the issue of an intrusive, overreaching, school policy would be no different. Just as I don't believe banning AR 15s from all law abiding citizens will stop the anomaly of a deranged individual from inflicting death if they so choose. So long as we're speculating here, I also think it unlikely the Association of NJ Rifle and Pistol Clubs would be willing to put their reputation on the line if this youth were anything but upstanding.

 

[KellyinAvon]

Curious what the opinion would be if it came out that the student had a reputation in school as most likely to be a school shooter like in Florida.

In that scenario it would've been ignored. You know, like the actions of the Parkland murderer that should have led to multiple arrests but were swept under the rug FOR MONEY.

 

[churchmouse]

In that scenario it would've been ignored. You know, like the actions of the Parkland murderer that should have led to multiple arrests but were swept under the rug FOR MONEY.

Bingo. The system is failing and we may never get it righted.

 

[openwell]

That's what due process is for. The courts handle due process, not the schools. So, from the school's perspective, it changes nothing at all.

Sad to say this- Due Process is only afforded to citizens age 18 and above as provided by the Bill of Rights..

Used to be able to rely on citations of court decisions to support "such basics", but seems like the liberal courts are happy to defy even the President of the United States without even a second thought!

Even worse, the SCOTUS is happy to turn away cases that should be heard regarding second amendment and such.

Sad times we live in. Better than the alternative. Not too good lookin longrange.

 

[Jludo]

In that scenario it would've been ignored. You know, like the actions of the Parkland murderer that should have led to multiple arrests but were swept under the rug FOR MONEY.

I apparently didn't follow the parkland shooting close enough, multiple people people should have been arrested but someone was paid not to arrest them?

 

[patience0830]

Nothing like some serious overreach. I hope they can afford a good lawyer and sue the living s**t out of them, but dont know if that can be done if they signed the rulebook. Not sure if thats considered a binding contract or not

Unless the student is 18, the parent would have to consent to this stupidity, right?

 

[openwell]

I apparently didn't follow the parkland shooting close enough, multiple people people should have been arrested but someone was paid not to arrest them?

Not an expert here: OBAMA DOJ offerred Schools big grant money to lower the rate of arrests of students. So Broward County schools wanted the grant money and LOWERED or instructed schools not to report crimes to law enforcement and thereby qualify for multi-million dollars in grant money. You see the "fudge the numbers to get the OBAMA money" thang

The rate of minority and persons-of-color arrests in schools was too high for obama, to cook the books and numbers to look politically better than, say they were

 

[Jludo]

Not an expert here: OBAMA DOJ offerred Schools big grant money to lower the rate of arrests of students. So Broward County schools wanted the grant money and LOWERED or instructed schools not to report crimes to law enforcement and thereby qualify for multi-million dollars in grant money. You see the "fudge the numbers to get the OBAMA money" thang

I thought the big thing was that the kid never actually committed a prior crime so their hands were tied.

 

[BugI02]

I apparently didn't follow the parkland shooting close enough, multiple people people should have been arrested but someone was paid not to arrest them?

The BC school district received recognition and enhanced federal money for its work in decreasing the "school to prison pipeline" in response to a federal effort to encourage such behavior. that was the money. They did so by entering into an agreement with local law enforcement agencies to forego arresting students on campus for what manifestly would be arrestable offenses. That was the behavior that was paid for, not to reduce criminality but simply to reduce the appearance/official record of criminality. This program arguably played a part in why existing gun laws did not prevent this shooter from legally purchasing his murder weapon

And the preferred solution is, absolutely without irony, more gun laws enforced with what we can only assume would be the same level of zeal

 

[openwell]

I thought the big thing was that the kid never actually committed a prior crime so their hands were tied.

On one of the 45 or so contacts with Florida, Broward law. He put a gun to his brothers head and threated to shoot him according to info from twitter Dloesh of the NRA spokesman.