Tariffs on Chinese goods?

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  • Tariffs: A good idea?


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    ATOMonkey

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    Thor

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    So, 5 June Xi and Putin had a get together. They have agreed on a "comprehensive strategic partnership of coordination for a new era". ChiComs, formerly the backwoods red headed step child of communism, are now leading the dance. With the US stepping back they need Russia's resources. They agree on a one world government scenario; I'm not sure they have a firm grip on who gets to lead in the end.
     

    T.Lex

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    Global Times is talking all about how Chinese businesses are looking away from the US toward Africa and Russia to diversify their customers. It touts the sanctions fight as unifying for the Chinese, and how they can outlast the US.

    Also, there's something about some new song that is aggressive towards the US. More pop culture (or what passes for it over there) grooming.
     

    Thor

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    "There’s a growing conviction that economic integration with China was a mistake. Our nation’s leaders assumed that the United States would gain access to China’s vast population, and U.S. companies would export more goods to China’s consumers. They believed that Beijing would become more open and democratic.

    But none of that happened.


    Instead, China has used predatory trade to capture the U.S. market and fund its military and economic rise. And it has become a more authoritarian surveillance state, with President Xi now spreading China’s model regionally and globally."

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/447579-beijing-started-this-trade-conflict-trump-must-finish-it

    Crank'em up.
     

    Twangbanger

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    "There’s a growing conviction that economic integration with China was a mistake. Our nation’s leaders assumed that the United States would gain access to China’s vast population, and U.S. companies would export more goods to China’s consumers. They believed that Beijing would become more open and democratic.

    But none of that happened.


    Instead, China has used predatory trade to capture the U.S. market and fund its military and economic rise. And it has become a more authoritarian surveillance state, with President Xi now spreading China’s model regionally and globally."

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/447579-beijing-started-this-trade-conflict-trump-must-finish-it

    Crank'em up.

    Dammit: according to Bloomberg, Trump is making it harder for China to become a Great Power:
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    One of the hoped-for goals of trade with China is to transfer American technology to them, so they can develop faster and investments there will appreciate quickly.

    Wall Street investors want their boat in the Hamptons within their lifetimes. (After all, who wants to get rich after they're dead).

    Not blaming them; just pointing out that Trump is correct. They are screwing over the U.S. for personal gain.
     

    Thor

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    Dammit: according to Bloomberg, Trump is making it harder for China to become a Great Power:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...tougher-by-the-day/ar-AAFD0Zz?ocid=spartandhp

    One of the hoped-for goals of trade with China is to transfer American technology to them, so they can develop faster and investments there will appreciate quickly.

    Wall Street investors want their boat in the Hamptons within their lifetimes. (After all, who wants to get rich after they're dead).

    Not blaming them; just pointing out that Trump is correct. They are screwing over the U.S. for personal gain.

    It's amazing it's taken so long for (some) people to notice...:yesway:

    The ChiComs are our enemies, they have weaponized capital to leach our economy and fund their dreams.
     
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    Thor

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    It certainly isn't fair when the enemy is a centralized economy that will manipulate its currency and strategically dump products on our market based economy to destroy our industry so that we become ripe for domination. They are sucking life out of our economy to fund their dreams of world domination. The only competition with economic warfare is to do the same and shut them out of our markets. Let them taste the full benefits of communism, don't bring it here.
     

    Jludo

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    It certainly isn't fair when the enemy is a centralized economy that will manipulate its currency and strategically dump products on our market based economy to destroy our industry so that we become ripe for domination. They are sucking life out of our economy to fund their dreams of world domination. The only competition with economic warfare is to do the same and shut them out of our markets. Let them taste the full benefits of communism, don't bring it here.

    It's so confusing to me that their top down communist government is both the worst economic system and simultaneously taking advantage of us and beating is so badly in economic gamesmanship.

    If we had a president willing to completely end trade with china our capitalist economy would flourish and Chinas would collapse?
     

    BugI02

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    It's so confusing to me that their top down communist government is both the worst economic system and simultaneously taking advantage of us and beating is so badly in economic gamesmanship.

    If we had a president willing to completely end trade with china our capitalist economy would flourish and Chinas would collapse?

    Because it's actually true, that makes for bad sarcasm
     

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