Thai youth soccer team trapped in a cave

[eldirector]

Appropriate warning signs? This is Thailand. You'd have to put signage at the border.

 

[rvb]

What those kids really needed all along was Sting.

[video=youtube;nbhiLbT_yGo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbhiLbT_yGo[/video]

 

[Thor]

Appropriate warning signs? This is Thailand. You'd have to put signage at the border.

Well there ya go...kind of like bad roads in NY. Bump ahead...till next state.

 

[KittySlayer]

Yay! Now put a warning sign at the entrance that says you may die if you go further...I've been places like that before. Personal responsibility, the right equipment and training tend to be necessary to survival.

Maybe a sign like this?

 

[Sylvain]

Yay! Now put a warning sign at the entrance that says you may die if you go further...I've been places like that before. Personal responsibility, the right equipment and training tend to be necessary to survival.

A soccer team coach and his team probably don't qualify...maybe the coach should be paying for the rescue expense if appropriate warnings were posted.

Putting warning signs is a very American thing.Most parts of the world just relly on people's common sense and don't warn you of obvious "common sense" dangers.

You can't put signs in front of all cave entrances, on top of cliffs, at the bottom of cliffs, in rivers, next to roads telling you to look both ways before crossing etc.

Your personnal responsibility is engaged even without warning signs.

I've been to places where they just put warning signs for non-obvious risks such as burried land mines.

 

[Sylvain]

Maybe a sign like this?

Signs like that make you want to go in and explore.I would assume there's a treasure or something hidden there.

 

[eldirector]

+1 Sylvain.

Our overly-litigious society is very much to blame. Used to play stupid games, and win stupid prizes. Now you play stupid games, and get rewarded.

 

[Sylvain]

+1 Sylvain.

Our overly-litigious society is very much to blame. Used to play stupid games, and win stupid prizes. Now you play stupid games, and get rewarded.

When my girlfriend (she's American) visited me in France, she was amazed of all the "dangerous things" that we had over here.
She kept telling me "there would be a sign in the US".Or "this whole thing would be closed the public".

We have a road/street that is next to the harbor, no warning signs, no barriers to keep you from falling into the sea when you're driving on parking your car.Which is allowed on that street ... just kinda dangerous.

Even when the water level gets that high people still drive there.The city never added a sign.

Now when the road is fully covered with water and you can't tell where the road ends and where the ocean begins it gets interesting.

Here's a parking spot where cars are just a foot away from the edge of the wharf.No signs either.

I always double check that the reverse gear is engaged when I'm parked there and leaving the parking spot, otherwise if you go forward you will sink and possibly die trapped inside your car.

You can be sure that people are not texting and driving in that area.They pay attention to the road ... or the ocean, it's hard to tell which is which when it's raining.

 

[rhino]

Getting trapped in a flooded cave and dying isn't even on the top 10 list of bad thing that happen to kids every day in Thailand.

 

[Ski]

Documentary on the rescue will be on the Discovery Channel Friday night at 10.

 

[Thor]

Maybe a sign like this?

Exactly, and that sign is just to make the unprepared stop and think. Pretty sure I've seen that exact same sign before.

 

[Thor]

Putting warning signs is a very American thing.Most parts of the world just relly on people's common sense and don't warn you of obvious "common sense" dangers.

You can't put signs in front of all cave entrances, on top of cliffs, at the bottom of cliffs, in rivers, next to roads telling you to look both ways before crossing etc.

Your personnal responsibility is engaged even without warning signs.

I've been to places where they just put warning signs for non-obvious risks such as burried land mines.

I agree...but my post was in response to a recommendation to plug the hole. Personally, I'd prefer taking the warnings off everything and letting it sort itself out.

 

[churchmouse]

I agree...but my post was in response to a recommendation to plug the hole. Personally, I'd prefer taking the warnings off everything and letting it sort itself out.

As Darwin intended.

 

[hoosierdoc]

I agree...but my post was in response to a recommendation to plug the hole. Personally, I'd prefer taking the warnings off everything and letting it sort itself out.

So you’re OK with kids getting themselves hurt? Gotta teach them some sort of lesson through death?

 

[Thor]

Not kids specifically, idiots in general.

 

[actaeon277]

So you’re OK with kids getting themselves hurt? Gotta teach them some sort of lesson through death?

As was mentioned earlier, you are proposing an "American" solution.

 

[Leadeye]

Getting trapped in a flooded cave and dying isn't even on the top 10 list of bad thing that happen to kids every day in Thailand.

Bangkok was always know as where the Japanese business guys go to "unwind". Never been there, but the stories I've been told are creepy.

 

[hoosierdoc]

Not kids specifically, idiots in general.

Ok, so leave a hole big enough for adults but plug all the kid-sized entrances. Got it

 

[eldirector]

So you’re OK with kids getting themselves hurt? Gotta teach them some sort of lesson through death?

In this incident, the kids did NOT get themselves hurt.

An adult got those kids hurt, through HIS bad decisions. This is on the coach, not on the kids.

Besides:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue

Since part of the cave system is seasonally flooded, a sign advising against entering the caves during the rainy season (July–November) is posted at the entrance

 

[hoosierdoc]

In this incident, the kids did NOT get themselves hurt.

An adult got those kids hurt, through HIS bad decisions. This is on the coach, not on the kids.

Besides:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tham_Luang_cave_rescue

Right, I know. So how does that change anything in the discussion of making things safe? People are arguing for leaving it open and even removing warning signs. Think the parents care whose fault it is when their kids are trapped? They just want their kid safe.