The (Current year) General Political/Salma Hayek discussion Thread Part V

[Alpo]

Remove the 24/7 media barrage and social media, and I think you would find things have not changed a whole lot.

It is no longer just a quick blurb on the evening news or an article in the paper. Today people are more plugged in and hear a lot more about this stuff. The highly partisan hyperbole that is added just increases the perception that it is so much worse.

Agree. Paul Harvey was The conservative back then. And almost everyone liked Paul.

Can't say the same for Rush et al

 

[ArcadiaGP]

Remove the 24/7 media barrage and social media, and I think you would find things have not changed a whole lot.

It is no longer just a quick blurb on the evening news or an article in the paper. Today people are more plugged in and hear a lot more about this stuff. The highly partisan hyperbole that is added just increases the perception that it is so much worse.

Yeah, the divisiveness has grown, and the internet has made it so everyone has a voice now... so obviously we all see more of the screaming... but the politics itself is pretty business-as-usual.

The next Democrat president will have an impeachment campaign against him or her, from the GOP, 100%. There will absolutely be doomsayers on the Right (again) talking about how there'll be civil war (again), and how the election was stolen (again) from whoever the GOP candidate was.

We'll repeat this cycle forever, while each administration chips a little more away from our constitution, and regains nearly nothing that was lost.

 

[nonobaddog]

That reminds me - I read a rant in a comments section where the poster was complaining that the MSM was way too conservative and said only bad things about liberals. It didn't say which planet.

 

[KG1]

Remove the 24/7 media barrage and social media, and I think you would find things have not changed a whole lot.

It is no longer just a quick blurb on the evening news or an article in the paper. Today people are more plugged in and hear a lot more about this stuff. The highly partisan hyperbole that is added just increases the perception that it is so much worse.

Agree as well that it's the constant partisan hyperbolic barrage that has whipped this country into such a divisive frenzy.

 

[T.Lex]

CNN Headline News basically originated the 24/7 news cycle, which has only amplified with social media.

 

[KLB]

CNN Headline News basically originated the 24/7 news cycle, which has only amplified with social media.

CNN HN was originally setup to give the news, freeing the main channel to have programming other than just straight news. The arrival of competition in the form of Foxnews and MSNBC brought ratings battles. The loss of viewers from the regular networks got them into the fray, with all of them trying to grab viewers and now clicks. That brings the hyperbole and rush to be the first, which has quickly eroded any journalistic integrity they had.

 

[ATOMonkey]

pffftttt.... the media is just a reflection of what has been pushed for decades.

Progressives have been working to undermine freedom for the last 100 years in America. It has been systematic and inexorable. They have taken over policing, the law, education, the military, labor, crop production, and soon the medical industry. They have already laid the groundwork to take over energy, which will happen in the next 20 years or so. Completely socialized medicine will happen in less than 10 years.

The media is just the natural consequence of raising generations to believe that the more government we have the more better we'll be.

The Titanic is sinking gentlemen. I suggest getting a good seat and a glass of scotch.

 

[jamil]

I tend to agree with GPIA7shunghgungng on this one. There are absolutely analogs across the generations, in terms of basic arguments.

I also disagree about what drove the GOP back then, but it really isn't worth arguing about since we probably just have different perspectives on it.

Of course. My biggest disagreement is where the volume knob was in each generation.

 

[jamil]

*toe lines, not tow lines.

(copywright)

Thank you. I'll make that correction. I'm aware of how that saying came about.

 

[jamil]

It's the same in that... the issues are the same, the outrages are the same, the debates are the same, the takedown tactics are the same, the lies are the same, the public feelings are the same, and the results are the same.

Not nitpicking the "level" of each of these things... but all the things being talked about since the 80s are things being talked about today, and the two sides involved are doing all the same things they were doing then, and very little comes out of it. That's why I'm really not worried at all about these impeachment hearings or anyone getting assblasted over Trump. 4 years will pass, and we'll move on to the next part of the repeating cycle of nothing

Was thinking about this too. A big difference between the two is the use of the mob. And again, I think that's because of social media. It's really easy to direct the mob to cancel a person. Back then we didn't have people getting canceled like that. So, I do agree that there were similarities, and a lot of people running the same mental algorithms then as now. But the tools have changed which exacerbate all of that and makes for a widely different experience.

 

[Ingomike]

CNN Headline News basically originated the 24/7 news cycle, which has only amplified with social media.

If my memory serves me well, CNN was first, Headline was created so CNN could talk politics all day...

 

[churchmouse]

pffftttt.... the media is just a reflection of what has been pushed for decades.

Yes but it is a steady and ever louder drum bat now than it ever was. And it is the MSM that is in control of the loud knob.

 

[olhorseman]

When a politician screws up their supporters always sound like a gang banger's mom: "He was a good boy", "He was just turning things around", "He just fell in with the wrong people", etc., etc.

 

[Birds Away]

Yes but it is a steady and ever louder drum bat now than it ever was. And it is the MSM that is in control of the loud knob.

CNN used to have news. Now even their supposed "news" is heavily tainted.

 

[DoggyDaddy]

pffftttt.... the media is just a reflection of what has been pushed for decades.

Progressives have been working to undermine freedom for the last 100 years in America. It has been systematic and inexorable. They have taken over policing, the law, education, the military, labor, crop production, and soon the medical industry. They have already laid the groundwork to take over energy, which will happen in the next 20 years or so. Completely socialized medicine will happen in less than 10 years.

The media is just the natural consequence of raising generations to believe that the more government we have the more better we'll be.

The Titanic is sinking gentlemen. I suggest getting a good seat and a glass of scotch.

No time for that. There are deck chairs that need rearranging!

 

[Alpo]

Yes, those nasty progressives. Cleaned up Chicago meat packing. Eliminated child labor. Made industries safer for workers. And (shudder) got women the vote. Izzat you, Chet?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

Yes, those nasty progressives. Cleaned up Chicago meat packing

Thats about the only only thing in Chicago they cleaned up

 

[Alpo]

And what have you done for anyone? Hmmm?

 

[Hatin Since 87]

And what have you done for anyone? Hmmm?

Seeing as how you’re not my God I really don’t need to give you a list hoping for your approval, as if you’re of some higher morality than me anyways

Secondly, I’m not a politician that was elected to make their city a better place am I? Hmmmmmmmmm?

 

[nonobaddog]

Yes, those nasty progressives. Cleaned up Chicago meat packing. Eliminated child labor. Made industries safer for workers. And (shudder) got women the vote. Izzat you, Chet?

Abortion eliminates child labor too, and it works for the mother as well as the child so it must be twice as good.