The (Current year) General Political/Salma Hayek discussion Thread Part V

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    DoggyDaddy

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    Yes, those nasty progressives. Cleaned up Chicago meat packing. Eliminated child labor. Made industries safer for workers. And (shudder) got women the vote. Izzat you, Chet?

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    Eliminated it, or forced it to go overseas (Unions)? They didn't eliminate it. They just off-shored it.
     

    ArcadiaGP

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    It's still pretty incredible that a 78 year old Presidential candidate had a heart attack this week (didn't tell supporters for three days), and there's been no real talk about whether he should drop out. In the past, this would have been plastered all over the news for weeks.
     

    bwframe

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    Bernie and Joe are circling the drain. Their polling and donation dollars will reflect this and that will finish them as soon as the news gets around to reporting it.
     

    Alpo

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    Seeing as how you’re not my God I really don’t need to give you a list hoping for your approval, as if you’re of some higher morality than me anyways :rolleyes:

    Secondly, I’m not a politician that was elected to make their city a better place am I? Hmmmmmmmmm?

    It seems you've missed the larger existential questions that relate to the nation, not just one town. You've also failed to recognize that progressive positions have been and are held by many who have no desire for political office and, in the case of women's suffrage, could not vote at that time.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Not that I'm in favor of abortion, because I'm not. But I wonder how many republican women have used those "services".

    In the South? Lots. Appearances mean a lot to us Southerners, and I can tell you I knew more than a few "well-bred" Belles that caught up, and had their problem fixed. I also have high confidence that their parents were probably, before that time, Pro-Life.
     

    jamil

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    Not that I'm in favor of abortion, because I'm not. But I wonder how many republican women have used those "services".

    Judging from anecdotal observations from my time living in the deep south, not nearly as many. 80% Republicans. They **** too. And they tend to get married really young when they get pregnant. And then get divorced a few years later if they’re wise enough to acknowledge the mistake of marrying someone they’re incompatible with. The unwise ones who end up marrying *******s end up abused.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    Judging from anecdotal observations from my time living in the deep south, not nearly as many. 80% Republicans. They **** too. And they tend to get married really young when they get pregnant. And then get divorced a few years later if they’re wise enough to acknowledge the mistake of marrying someone they’re incompatible with. The unwise ones who end up marrying *******s end up abused.

    That means something when you vote. Not so much when you have to deal with it personally.
     

    Ingomike

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    Blocking any meaningful investigation is the deep state. Many reporters are or were trying to get freedom of information act docs and were stymied and stonewalled at every turn by the government itself.

    The Hill reported:

    Federal government employees are opening their wallets to help Hillary Clinton beat Donald Trump on Nov. 8.
    Of the roughly $2 million that federal workers from 14 agencies spent on presidential politics by the end of September, about $1.9 million, or 95 percent, went to the Democratic nominee’s campaign, according to an analysis by The Hill.
    Employees at all the agencies analyzed, without exception, are sending their campaign contributions overwhelmingly to Clinton over her Republican counterpart. Several agencies, such as the State Department, which Clinton once led, saw more than 99 percent of contributions going to Clinton.


    The Hatch act makes political patronage illegal so there is only so much a new President can do concerning changing the employees of the government. It makes perfect sense that government employees would support a party wanting to upsize government rather than downsize it.


    https://thehill.com/homenews/campai...shun-trump-give-big-money-to-clinton-campaign

    We all know DC is full of leakers on all sides looking for personal advancement.


    Interesting sting information on how the deep state functions, particularly against conservatives.

    Most Americans are still under the illusion that when they elect a president, he takes control over the executive branch and proceeds to implement his agenda by working with Congress. Sadly, “School House Rock” is out of date.

    The deep state doesn’t have to involve dossiers, espionage, and explosive anonymous op-eds from high-ranking administration officials. It’s right there in plain sight: a rabidly partisan civil service of unelected bureaucrats, who quietly ensure that the people voters elect are unable to implement their agenda.



    New secretly recorded videos from Project Veritas reveal federal employees using a variety of tactics to impede the Trump administration from within. In them, employees admit to leaking information to a friendly leftist press, slowing down and frustrating the implementation of administration policy, and generally doing what democratic socialist and restaurant protestor Allison Hrabar calls “resist[ing] from the inside.”



    “What’s kind of lucky is at the DOJ, we really can’t get fired,” she chuckles in the undercover video.



    None of this should be at all surprising, considering that you don’t need an undercover camera to catch career bureaucrats touting their insider resistance credentials. Almost 200 people attended a publicly advertised seminar on how to use their federal jobs to resist the incoming Trump administration early in 2017.






    https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/0...t-to-assume-federal-agencies-are-against-him/

    https://thefederalist.com/2018/10/0...ist-elected-officials-orders-should-be-fired/
     

    jamil

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    Actually, the initial observation was about progressive policies to eliminate child labor. It INGOlved from there. (New Word, Jamil!)

    Now yer gittin' it. Now if we cud jist git ya ta sayin' LARPing...
     

    jamil

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    Setting The Record Straight After A Live Interview - NPR


    So the NPR...

    1. Apologizes for interviewing a Republican (Rep Jim Banks)

    2. Not only mischaracterizes his comments but refuses to quote them

    3. Notes that “far fewer Republicans were willing to speak with us than were their Democratic colleagues.”

    Wonder why

    npr said:
    Banks also incorrectly characterized a New York Times story about Adam Schiff, the California Democrat who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, incorrectly asserting that Schiff had "lied" about his role in the whistleblower complaint that sparked the impeachment drive. (I'm not going to repeat the entire incorrect statement.) Martin didn't challenge Banks' statements about Schiff during the live interview.

    Martin told me that only after the interview aired did she become aware that Schiff's office was refuting claims that he met the whistleblower before the complaint was filed.

    Okay. So Banks said Schiff lied about his role in the whistleblower. Schiff refutes that he met with the whistleblower before the complain was filed. But Schiff tweeted about this long before congress was notified. He got that information somewhere. Didn't Wapo report that Schiff or his office was contacted by the whistleblower initially. It's reasonable for Banks to claim Schiff lied when he said he nor his office had any contact with the whistleblower prior to the complain being filed. For NPR to call the claim incorrect just because Schiff says so, is kinda biased. Why take Schiff's word over Banks. It would instead be appropriate, after Banks claimed Schiff lied about that, for NPR to report that Schiff still maintains that he made no contact, and that somehow, the words just tweeted themselves, the details of the whistle blown.

    This isn't dishonest reporting. I think they really believe they're being objective and reporting both sides. But they are indeed reporting form the left.
     

    Kutnupe14

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    More comedy out of the White House

    Via Twitter:
    As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!). They must, with Europe and others, watch over...

    ...the captured ISIS fighters and families. The U.S. has done far more than anyone could have ever expected, including the capture of 100% of the ISIS Caliphate. It is time now for others in the region, some of great wealth, to protect their own territory. THE USA IS GREAT!

    -Donald J Trump

    Really guys? This is your guy? Really?
     
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