The DOJ took Cody Wilson's "DEFCAD" 3D-print gun site down. Cody sued, and won.

[Trigger Time]

You don't send Interpol after someone. Interpol doesn't work like that, it's an intelligence sharing/database thing, not an international version of the Marshals. You can notify Interpol of a warrant with international extradition, and they'll pass the info along to the nation the fugitive is believed to be in, but police in that nation actually do the warrant arrest. And also, US Marshal =/= FBI, different agencies.

Generally, they just contact the country he's in and ask for the fugitive to be returned via mutual legal assistance or extradition, depending on the treaty with that particular nation. We actually don't have an extradition treaty with Taiwan.

Depending on the circumstances, the fugitive might get escorted back, or might just be put on a plane with travel papers and a cancelled passport, then picked up at the point of entry by US authorities.

Thanks for explaining how it works. I knew FBI and marshalls are different. I just didnt know if since it was in a foreign country if the FBI would actualy have jurisdiction but not the Marshall's. But you cleared it up with everything else you said.

 

[Timjoebillybob]

Yeah, a lying girl getting you hemmed up sucks, but with her age, and the fact that he paid her, you kinda have to wonder if he honestly cared.

What about her age? iirc it was reported at 16. Now if it was much younger you might have a point. Personally for me the fact that he gave her money doesn't factor in.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they had this dude under some pretty heavy federal surveillance and seen this whole incident playing out online (monitoring it in real time) and then seeing her come up the elevator and hell they probably even watched or listened to them having sex and did nothing, and then a couple days later they made a phone call to this girls school counselor or therapists or parents and put the ball in motion without revealing their federal surveillance.
Now I might be wrong and crazy here but you know what? I'd actualy ne willing to lay money down that I'm partially right.

I decided nothing. And you still don't understand a thing. We are THE most law and order segment in America, even more so than cops. What I find offensive and what you fail to perceive is we wouldn't go looking beyond the fact that he was caught diddling a minor in order to yowl about some kind of conspiracy. That is YOUR modus operandi. Not ours.

Uhhh... See above.

 

[Kutnupe14]

What about her age? iirc it was reported at 16. Now if it was much younger you might have a point. Personally for me the fact that he gave her money doesn't factor in.





Uhhh... See above.

He was already in the midst of intentionally engaging in a criminal act. In my experience, criminals don't expect to get caught. Even if he was aware of her age, or was a bit unsure, would he have declined to pay for sex from a minor, because that was "more" illegal than the act he was wishing to originally engage?

 

[Trigger Time]

He was already in the midst of intentionally engaging in a criminal act. In my experience, criminals don't expect to get caught. Even if he was aware of her age, or was a bit unsure, would he have declined to pay for sex from a minor, because that was "more" illegal than the act he was wishing to originally engage?

I dont know what was on mr Wilson's mind or what his preferences are, but for me personaly and this is all hypothetical, if I'm paying a hooker and she shows up and is a kid, shes going the **** home and I'm NOT getting laid. Just because I wanted to pay for sex doesnt mean that I'm into molesting kids, because HELL NO I'm not.
Just because I'd be willing to pay for sex (I'm not now, for the story's sake I mean), doesnt mean I am willing to commit murder or bank robbery or other crimes too. Its paying for sex for goodness sakes. I think it should be legal and that it's that persons own body to sell if they wish. Now, if someone is being forced like in trafficking then hell no. I'd get them help If I knew even if that meant exposing myself to charges. I'm serious.

 

[Whosyer]

If only he had done this in one of the 26 States that has an age of consent of 16. Moral of the story.....when hiring an online hooker....check her ID. Especially, if you're ( more than likely) under surveillance.

 

[jedi]

If only he had done this in one of the 26 States that has an age of consent of 16. Moral of the story.....when hiring an online hooker....check her ID. Especially, if you're ( more than likely) under surveillance.

but even if you check id and its fake you are still in trouble. that is just bogus. reminds me of the akon, singer, who was in an over 21 club only. he is partying with some girl who was 17 at time. she got in with a fake id. how is that his fault! rethorical question.

 

[Alamo]

If you’re banging people that you have to see their ID to see if they are legally old enough, that’s a big red flag right there. Sugar daddies (and “escorts”) are not about “companionship.”

And thinking that a 15 or 16 year old that’s screwed up enough to prostitute herself makes it ok to take advantage... that is creepy justification.

 

[Fargo]

He was already in the midst of intentionally engaging in a criminal act. In my experience, criminals don't expect to get caught. Even if he was aware of her age, or was a bit unsure, would he have declined to pay for sex from a minor, because that was "more" illegal than the act he was wishing to originally engage?

There is a world of difference between a misdemeanor soliciting rap and felony statutory. Maybe the dude was intentionally trying to get someone that young, or maybe he’s just a scummy dumbass.

Either way, pretty much all underage prostitutes are being trafficked in some fashion, so I’m having a hard time understanding the vitriol some have against her.

I still think that mistake of fact should be an assertable defense, just as it is in pretty much all other criminal cases. That said, this dude sounds incredibly scummy even giving him every benefit of the doubt.

 

[actaeon277]

If you’re banging people that you have to see their ID to see if they are legally old enough, that’s a big red flag right there. Sugar daddies (and “escorts”) are not about “companionship.”

And thinking that a 15 or 16 year old that’s screwed up enough to prostitute herself makes it ok to take advantage... that is creepy justification.

You know there are people that look 10 to 20 years younger than they are, right?
If you are 28 years old, you could be thinking you're going out with a 24 year old, and poof, she's really under 18.

 

[Kutnupe14]

There is a world of difference between a misdemeanor soliciting rap and felony statutory. Maybe the dude was intentionally trying to get someone that young, or maybe he’s just a scummy dumbass.

Either way, pretty much all underage prostitutes are being trafficked in some fashion, so I’m having a hard time understanding the vitriol some have against her.

I still think that mistake of fact should be an assertable defense, just as it is in pretty much all other criminal cases. That said, this dude sounds incredibly scummy even giving him every benefit of the doubt.

Im not vilifying the underaged girl. I'm clear that there a lots of trafficked underage prositutes. So many in fact, that if she "looks" young, she probably is. Hookers don't tend to age all that well. I just don't buy the "I didn't know her age" excuse. I think if you're inclined to find someone online and offer to pay for sex with them (in the US), for the most part, you're so far morally corrupt, that you really don't care.

 

[Fargo]

Im not vilifying the underaged girl. I'm clear that there a lots of trafficked underage prositutes. So many in fact, that if she "looks" young, she probably is. Hookers don't tend to age all that well. I just don't buy the "I didn't know her age" excuse. I think if you're inclined to find someone online and offer to pay for sex with them (in the US), for the most part, you're so far morally corrupt, that you really don't care.

Didn’t think you were, that was directed at a number of statements up thread. I apologize that my post was formatted in in a way that it was unclear that I wasn’t referring to you.

 

[HoughMade]

https://heavy.com/news/2018/09/cody-wilson-sexual-assault-arrested-charges/

[FONT=&quot]“The charge is sexual assault. The statute says that the victim under the age of 17 is considered a child. My detectives have interviewed and spoken to this victim and if in their opinion someone mistakes age it was because they think she’s younger, not older, than the 16-year-old she is.”

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[Leadeye]

I remember some years back there was a controversy over a woman making porn movies while underage. The movies were considered child pornography even though she admitted to lying about her age to make them. From the legal definition, if you possessed the movies you were breaking the law regardless.

 

[actaeon277]

Tracy Lords

 

[HoughMade]

Tracy Lords

Beat me to it. I have a strictly legal interest in the situation.

 

[Dead Duck]

Tracy Lords

Didn't she say that she had guns pointed on her just out of camera shot forcing her to film that movie?

 

[jedi]

she started in more then just 1 movie.
all but 1 of her movies is now considered child porn
her mom obtained a fake birth cert for her and she used that to get an id under a different name and to get jobs as a nude modle before going into porn. she had everyone fooled.

and in cases like that how can u blame the movie compnay, the peole etx

 

[actaeon277]

Wasn't just the fake ID.
She didn't "act" like an innocent teenager.

 

[actaeon277]

Didn't she say that she had guns pointed on her just out of camera shot forcing her to film that movie?

dozens of movies

 

[jedi]

Wasn't just the fake ID.
She didn't "act" like an innocent teenager.

yup... she looks nice for 50.